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Wind And Cloud RPG V2.1

4.1 / 5 (31)
Submitted by randym4a1RPG7,434 downloads4.0 MB
Map Created By : RandyM4A1

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For any questions please email me at [email protected]
File Name
Wind And Cloud RPG V2.1.w3x
Map Author
<span style="color:#feba0e">RandyM4A1
Suggested Players
RPG Masters
Difficulty
0.00390625
Type
.w3x
Tileset
Cityscape
Regions
57
Cameras
18
Sounds
105
Units
387
Doodads
5955
Variables
426
Triggers
333

WARNING: This map has been damaged by a 3rd party application. People call this protecting the map.

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broken link....and this map is dead...so dead
1 Your quests are to hard for the needed level :arrow: I have a level 25 who can't do the level 10 quest . I mean the level 10 quest is in the level 15 area :!:

2 My comp always finds a critical error , I think is because of all the coins that drop from the monsters , why don't you just increase the ammount of money you get from the monsters :?:

3 Why don't you make it so when you use a transforming stone you stay at the same level you where when you used the stone :?: :idea:

4 Your recommended levels r way off , it seams you want people to cheat :?
thanks Mutant for suggestions, but actually i stopped releasin the map and plannin on new one, And Rui check your private msg and talk to me on msn, some models are downloaded on this site but skins i did myself and pictures i got it from Tinha's site he also did the storyline/translated chinese-english for me.
1. While this map is entertaining the terrain is horrid in some places. In some places it is just to bland while in others I can actually see through the floor of the map.

2. Also I know this may not be a bug but sometimes when a soul gets trapped between monsters they keep spawning. You really need a limit on that because it has caused me to restart the game several times. Perhaps you should make the soul able to actually teleport to the player after a while may be a good idea if you can or at least able to fly.

3. In the top left corner of the map when ever a ship goes there is causes the game to close with an error.

4. Acquiring stones is very tedious process since monsters rarely drop 5 at all. Also the stores only sell three loads of five stones when it is listed as ten.

5. Some of the quests are so vague it is almost pointless to complete. Perhaps you should put actual descriptions in each of the Read Me boxes.

That is about all that comes to mind right now. Please correct or fix these mistakes and it might become a map people will remember for it being enjoyable.
Greetings,
Randy, i really think ur map is amazing. i would really like to see it in World Editor but don't think i'm gonna hacker from it because i am not going to.

In fact i agreed with Voi when he said map needed more dooads etc. But i totally agree with u when u say that making map is just for fun.
Tell me where did u get the models (i mean if u got them in Blood Elves or Humans, or Creeps, i don't know how to say the words in english, i hope u understood me...).
...and i would like to know how to make save system i hate when people protect maps... :evil: and even more when they think every1 wants to copy/hacker from their maps... :x
Thx for making this map, i consider it one of my favourite RPGs.

Wind and Cloud RPG v2.1 is very c00l 8)

plz answer me if u can... :P
Im impressed by how you managed to turn perfect UI into crap by slapping these ugly pictures on it. It is neither godd looking or clear now, and playing with this thing in front of your eyes is almost impossible.
Is the interface also From this site???? :?:

i Really Need to know.
:D :lol: :) :? :( :cry: :x :evil: :twisted:
well this is the 3rd most downloaded map right now so it canr be all that bad. I my self am a RPG maker. I will soon be releasing my RPG Craft of Survival. it will be awhile till i am finished but in the mean time i might as well go play other players RPG maps to ee what stuff they like. If i like this map i will give give it a a 4/5 or 5/5 depending on the gameplay.
I my slef do not like RPGs when they make the units do 10k dmg etc.. it makes the game really newbish sometimes. such as COT curse of time. that was a veary sucky RPG in my opinion. Well it is time for me to download this RPG. If it is good than Good job to who Created it.
Ok if U Can Read THe THing DownStaris i know U Can Do SOme Coding On maps
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People if you read all you will see I don't write this because Im jelous...

Also I wanna say that maps only should be posted once (it stands in the rules)! If u add a new version then do it throught updating the map or if you wanna do it cheat way (as I call it), then add a new map and remove the old version. Dont post same map twice!
BAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you dum people!If you don't stop talking about---ohh look this map is bad,so lets rate it 1/5;ohh look this map is fun lets rate it 5/5---i'll come and smash you all!!!!!!(i train serious boxing)Voi,you don't have to say that the map sux this way,just rate your 1/5 in the ass and be gone!But we'll remember that this vote is a sucking DOWNRATE!And don't tell the others that the map sux cause they maybe like it and you can't make them don't like it!If you don't like the map that doesn't mean the others won't like it!!!!!
Ok I try to give u some more feedback to why it sucks (but I cant give u too much because I left the map rather fast because it sucked). I guess I didn't give any because then I would need to write so much...but here is a "short" version:

1: The terrain is worst of all:
You have made a completely flat terrain with no doodads except trees (excluding the city). Please add some environment doodads and height differents!

2: The heroes were imbalanced, I had the priest (which I know should be weak to melee combat). I went to level 1 creep area and I could maximum kill 3 units before I died even though I had a "powerfull" spell.

3: There were not many items to buy, only normal shit-items.

4: I don't really know what it was...but the game was overall boring even except the things I mentioned before. The only good thing is the idea of the map. That it is based of that asian story and the system with spells but you concluded to make that so bad as a map so it totally destroyed the idea.


>>>READ THIS ALL PEOPLE<<<
Don't only say the map is good. Say WHY it is good because I can't really understand how you people can like it...only because it is a new open rpg and u are tired of CoT, Sol's and all other?
This map is fun!!!!
NOTE: The post under this was removed...

I didn't flame. I was just critizising your map. I have a few things to say:

1. You flame, also u are racist to all swedish people.

2. Yes my maps are WAY better (even the first one I made is better but I cant say any of my first maps were very good)

3. Please learn take critic! You also think your map is good just because it is hosted on Battle.Net. Thats what I hate: ppl really host the worst maps instead of the best! There are only a few good maps I have seen be hosted (examples: Uther Party, Spellcraft, Massacre TD, Burbenog TD, Tides of Blood (there are more of them)). All good maps doesn't need to be pro-maps but they need to be fun and noob-maps really CANT be fun...only average maps like burbenog and pro maps can be fun (pro maps can be boring too(like NCCD made by Darky28)). Like I said before: You should learn taking critic!

4. Sure I may be a bit jelous but that's not because your map is good (because it isn't). That is because your fucking shit-map is hosted on Bnet and not my maps -.-. No way I say bad things about your map because Im jelous!
How the hell can this noob map be popular!

I cant see anything good with it.

Terrain sux, heroes sux etc....everything sux!

The only reason to why people like is because you somehow found out how to make a loading screen! What makes you people like this map really?

1/5 (I am serious! It is SO bad)
hm hope this doesnt have that cheat cheat where get alot of free stones or best items in game when you push ESC at a certain spot in the game, thats what ruined the game for me, to many dam cheaters. should take it out. well time for me to dl it. 4/5 good map anyway.
Nice map 5/5 O and by the way acn you PLEASE post your save code, or send it to [email protected] i will REALLY appreciate it, and put it to good use!
Hmm,i didn't saw them last time!But i'll dl it again.
Have you added any of my spells?
Btw i need your help.I'll send you pm bout what i need of you.

8)
Where are my credits Randy?We had a deal! :? The credits are supposed to be in the description!

BG:Kopele gadno!
How does this become popular?
3.95 mb lol.... thats tight
Iv Finally got a Good Hero, a level 121 Wind with the Conquer set and half the wind and cloud set
Hey, lol I saw this being hosted on b.net lately and I thought it was one of those loner rpg's but then I was just doin my surfing around on wc3search and I just realized it was your map lol

my bad, looks good
Quest done ...... I made in 10 sec with teleport i buyed a hidra put it there teleport on it abd tata quest donr e tnx man
Randy that quest is damn hard pls tell us bro that men finished it and it didnt tell us

i really want to make all quest
Greetings,
about the letter quest.. I also didn't find it right at the first time. But after 30 minutes triing I found out where to deliver it myself. It isn't really hard, so please try it yourself.

@randy: Nice rpg, I like it.
One bug at 2.1 is that wc3 always crashs for all playing people when anyone enters the region where evil cloud is (the point he spawns at and north of it).

Then I think the recipe drops could be a bit higher or atleast you should be able to save them in your soul or chars inventar. It took me 4 hours today to get a forsaken soul recipe :p

Way to go, thumbs up.
Aye and I like the reduced exp points.. but maybe they are abit too low now.

Just my 2 cents,
keep up the good work :)

Heinle
Yeh im also wondering where that place is
randy my brother its the tird time i ask u about the god damn LETTER quest where are we suppose to deliwer letter in Red Montain to WHO

PLS answer

PEACE AND HONOR
Cool thanks randy, mine was 128 x 128 probily not 16 bit though, oh and i think you should reduce the amount that coins drop and increase the bounty for creeps because i put my hero on patrol while i went out in the lvl 30 area came back 1.5 hours later, all was fine then 2 hours later of patroling wc3 crashed from over population of coins :D
Randy read ur mail bro i send u a mail here is to damn hard to enter because of the huge Mad Panda comments

i asked u something there

[email protected] <-- there i sended mail
Well Randy, there is a bug at the quest "evil monk". When im travel to him the Warcraft III TFT going down... A bit lame but okay only 1 bug, i can live with that ;). But please fix i 8)

To all you guys say this game sucks;
if you not like the game, then don't come with some stupids comments... Keep it to yourself...
Even if Randy sucks at english at some of you guys say... Where is the point...?
I know you guys can read it, its just that you don't like the game and come with some stupids comments...
Randy, This May Sound Kinda Noobie but how do we put a custom minimap into our map, so when people are downloading (downloaded) in the top right of the Screen is a picture Like in Monolith

Iv got the File in my map and everythings, its just my mind has gone totaly Blank
WEll well, I like that it is based on the Story why Cloud is weaker than a Shaolin fighter, but you should consider that you get nothing for doing the effort to play the entire game again, to make it even worse, you can`t equip another ability than Shaolin lvl 2 being Cloud (u really need that critical*3).
So if based on story or not, having cool skills and looking great won`t be able to get people to play Cloud, and if they still do, they get dissapointed by there weakness, you should REALLY do something about it... (besides that Shaolin is 15k Silver and Cloud is 50k silver 20k stone, very unfair considering their powers).
Another way to balance that, make good and very rare items ONLY useable by Wind or Cloud (or by the conqur clan heroes), which makes u invest even more time, but is worth it after all. Besides the fact you can use even secret hero sets with the spirit of charity item I like that system as well.

I`m gonna play now ;) Always searching for bugs to help you get the map as prfect as it can be !!!
yea RANDY make something about these secres heroesn man cause they are to weak they got godly powers but they are simply weak as i told u make them at least 1 time stronger than any char and let me tell u something ....

SUPER HEROES but why did u put that chance to miss on magic man let them do dmg all the time i was CLOUD and i missed XIONG BA 3 times in a row with GODLY CLAP
this is outrageous i really like CLOUD but he is weak "WERY WEAK" ewen with the best items u have a small chance to beat BLADESTORM


RANDY another thing i cant do


WHERE DO I HAVE TO DELIWER THAT LETTER MAN CAUSE ITS OUTRAGEOUS I LOOKED ALL RED MONTAIN BUT I DIDNT FIND THE PERSON?


U GOT 10/10 FROM ME BRO


MAD PANDA he told u that u make out of this world comments so pls if u dont like the map man delete it and start a new one or perhaps ur angri that he didnt send u a unprotected map so u can edit as u like



I HATE CHEATERS AND U ARE ONE OF THEM

PEACE AND HONOR
Randy, there are a few reasons why your map IS better than FF or Dark Lineage !!!
Being better than Dark Lineage ist mostly because it gets boring very fast after you reached a middle high level and especially equip.
FF open RPG has the problem that it aint has so lovely details like WaC or Dark Lineage has.

Without any lies you can consider Wind and Cloud the best and hopefulst RPG 8)
You got to make new save-codes for final version though ;)


p.s.: Look at my Last post and answer it please, it is about the "secret Heroes" being too weak.
God_Of_Thunder ,,,i tells that to Mhune and Mad_Panda
and whoever jealousin on me,,!


No where did I ever imply that I was jelous of you.

I was trying to be nice with my review, summed up, all I suggested was you change some of the spells, and balance the leveling.

After a closer analysis of the map, I came up with this new and improved review, perhaps this simplified version can help explain to the creator and his swarm of ignorant fans :

Heroes: Pure crap. You start up the map and are given 12 heroes to choose from. No single hero has anything that makes them unique from the other chasuble heroes (aside from name, model, and primary attribute).

The class heroes are as boring as hell, not only are their spells un-innovative or creative, but they are imbalanced as shit.

Leveling: At level 1 it requires 1000 experience points to gain a level. Since all defeat-able units are level 1, it takes a good number of killed enemies to gain a level. This is ok for the first 5 levels or so, but it truly gets repetitive and boring, especially after advancing to the barrens area. If you can manage to reach 15, you come upon swarms of trolls, these trolls pretty much own you, so you are forced to level even higher before you can even hope to defeat them.
I assume that it gets no better, as the 1st available quest is impossible, and there are no ways of leveling.

Save Code: Wow... the only thing you have any idea of what your doing, and it sucks. Not only have you not made your save system loop-hole-free, but it doesn't save any stat changes (tomes), gold, wood, or used skill points. If I were you, I'd just play with darky's save code (all it needs is a little better encryption) and use that.

Glitches: I found tons of glitches in your map, one of the most frustrating was when my soul would continually go follow my battle ship instead of my hero. If you had any knowledge in triggering, then you'd know you can easily fix this by:

E
Unit enters map
C
Entering unit = hero
A
if owner of entering unit = red, then set heroplayer1 = entering unit, else do nothing

if owner of entering unit = blue, then set heroplayer2 = entering unit, else do nothing

etc.

then:

E
Unit enters entire map
C
Unit = soul
A
if owner of entering unit = red, then order enterting unit to follow heroplayer1, else do nothing.

etc.


Triggers: Because you appear to suck at triggering, I doubt that you need all 333 of those triggers for this map.

Items: So agonizingly boring that I almost fell asleep when I read their descriptions. If you didn't have flashy custom icons, then everyone would agree with me, they suck. You didn't even try to make interesting items or spells. This game is almost as worse as that other awful RPG, Angel of Death (which I had the misfortune of playing). Don't even get me started on that abomination that you created (I'm quite sure you're the person that made it, though I'm too lazy to double check).

Item Drops: They rarely drop anything unique, and most items are boring and only add damage or armor.

Grammar: While this is completely irrelevant to the map, I feel that I must take pity on your awful grammar (as seen in the above quote). If english isn't your first language, then put it into an english grammar/spelling checker, I'm sure there are some on the internet.

To mad_panda:
Im sure the reason your commenting is some deep inset anger that you cant play this rpg to save your life, so now, try to look back on your life, remember all the crap thats happend to you? Now go back further, and kill urself...


You are the perfect example of an idiot.

I could almost consider this a flame, as you did not even attempt to explain to me why my review was awful. Please, I don't need your pitiful attempts to insult me, I was merely giving advice to the author, and you take offence to it?

When compared to FFO and Dark Lineage (truly the best open RPG even made [its a shame the author has never went to work on it since 0.3]) this game is utter crap. I reccomend you spend some time on this, try to turn this monstrosity into something you can be proud of. Half of the people I 'played' (this wasn't really any fun at all, it was more like torture than it was fun) agrred with me, its fun for 5 minutes, and then its boring. The people I played with didn't even bother to save their hero because it was so bad.

If you still think your map is sooo great, that I would be jealous of it, then let's recap for a sec.

Heroes: Probably made in an hour, these heroes have no deapth and very few have more than 1 learnable ability.

Spells: Probably 25 custom spells total, you just edited them from their normal melee versions. Probably took you 20 minutes.

Items: Nothing interesting at all. You may as well have just used melee items with edited values and saved on the size of the map.

Use of Models/Skins: Skins pretty much sucked, and just made the map huge. Didn't see any custom models worth nothing.

So in short, I give you a 1/5. Oh yeah! I forgot! I have to end my review with a smily like everyone else! :oops:

Edit: Don't end your sentances with ,,,, its .... and . Using commas makes you look like an idiot.
EvAnGElIon man it is true what u say because i got a 200 lvl Cloud and im not satisfied "WHAT THE HELL ITS THE LAST HERO" it is wery weak man Shaolin its the strongest and Frost Dragon , i didnt have the oportunity to buy WIND but i think she is the same like CLOUD i found a SPIRIT OF FROST man let me tell u they are the ultimate hero but i can kill bladestorm 10 times faster with SHAOLIN OF THE FIST
in the next wersion make them stronger cause they are the MAIN characters in this game STORY

by the way randym4a1 i like the ideea of the ultimate char ,i tryed only wind NICE HE CAN WALK ON WATER THIS IS GOOD MAN


I DISCOWERED ANOTHER BUG WHEN U PLAY SHAOLIN OF THE FIST HERO AND UR PLAYER IS SWORD SAINT WHEN U USE BUTHA BE PRAISED THE SCHREEN BLOCKS AND U CANT SCROLL

U MUST WAYT TO USE THE ABILITY ONE MORE TIME TO UNBLOCK

MAN IN NEXT WERSION PLS DO SOMETHING WITH THAT CINEMATIC QUEST ITS NASTY WHEN MONSTERS FOLLOW AND U GO FOR A QUEST :))))

MAKE THE MAIN CHARACTERS AT LEAST 2-3 TIMES BETTER MAN HELL 1VS1 FROST DRAGON OR SHAOLIN BEATS ANI OF THEM

I CANT IMAGINE IN THE REALY MOVIE CLOUD TO BE BEATEN BY A SHAOLIN OR A FROST DRAGON

PLS ANSWER ME randym4a1
Hi there again, Randy. Two more annoying things, first some creeps spawn on hills (in level 8 and 15 area), you can`t reach them but tey can shoot you/distract your hero. The second thing is, louds skills seem bugged, Night`s Grace for example will sometimes (at least 50% of the times) result in all enemies around you dissappearing, like you had left the are, but even worse is the fact that you get hunted by towns for using it AND that it won`t grant the listed 8500 bonus Damage. Mind Control is a rather USELESS skill, you should exchange it, as you don`t need it and it won`t ever work anyways ;)
Now to the 2 Huge damage skills, whatever you try if god clap is available it will be used, no matter if u want to use magic arm or god clap, it is always the clap that comes, unless it must wait for cooldown.
Besides that, The Magic Arm skill ain`t too good as well, keeps you busy a bit, won`t deal the listed damage and is all in all useless as your punches deal more damage anyways ;( I hope those words weren`t too hard, see I really like Cloud, but I would like him even more if he works properly ;)
As a suggestion, you should improve the stats from Cloud and the other "Secret Classes" as to get them you will most often play the through the game several times and there is no reason to start again with a weaker base hero (My Shaolin Fist for example is MUCH Stronger in killing speed).

Answering your last post to me, I never said a word about your translation, but it is good overall, just some details that aren`t correct, if you like I could make a little list of Dialogues that should be fixed , but don`t expect it all too fast, I got a job ....


Keep up the good work :)
Well im a map maker too man but i dont tell anione about that anyway u didn`t answer my comments no problem perhaps i was out of order but i got one SIMPLE QUESTION RANDY where is CHARITY body so i can finish a god damn quest ???


MAN and in the next wersion u make turn off cinematic from the quest man cause its wery nasty its like someone teleporting on u I DYED AT BladestorM gate 3 times because of that stopid cinematic , do what u have to do .

PEACE and HONOUR :twisted:
i really think this rpg is missing alot more thsan the usaLLY, PLUSi think u good have done better on the exp. personal 3/5
LOL all the comments. Well everyone has already complained about the exp. I just think for a rpg to take hours you need to have great story, unique place to explore, fun charcters to gain/become. This map has generic level up areas, Story has potential but telling me history is not interesting, Level 1 heros displayed no evidence of improvement. (my level 5 had one spell he couldn't even cast with his mana). No way i could kill the boss in level 1 area any time soon. The password system made me not care to attempt to continue. The movie was great but not the best job translateing it to a RPG. Slow leveling should never take the place of lack of story/direction.
For all those complaining about leveling to fast get over it. If you played it map long enough to get there then you must of enjoyed it. Even if it was short.

The problem i see is it is a OPEN Rpg yet you confine areas to levels so there is not much to explore. When your able to explore more you dont mind leveling slow because your getting some exp and haveing fun adventuring.

Nice map i would give it about a 3.8 it's good the average player could not do what you have done. The GUI made it anoying for me. If your going to change buttons they should all use a theme. In short good job i'm sure you have learned alot from the map and look forward to seeing improved maps in the future. I would take the great parts of your map and combin it with the suggestions to make your next map which i hope to see. I just released a password system. You might want to check it out since your password seemed long for whatever information you were storeing.
RANDYM4A1 what`s wrong this map man in the first thing i spend all my STONES on AGILITY and STRENGHT and we cant ewen save them so what is to be done? My dmg was 5000-5000 now i have 1200-1200 on 305 lvl man this is a BAD thing why didnt u tell us , and why did u put those BOOKS there so we can spend our STONES and in the next game ups we loose all STATS thats not fair man :(

And i buy a book from the MUD BUDHA in the next game i didnt have the book, it was 30000 stones man i buy stones all day to see what that BOOK gives and i LOOSED it because cant be saved ....

Do something with the STATS bro cause it is very bad to spend stones on book and in next game to be normal again.

My advise do something with the safe sistem man because we like to save all STUFF i buy EWEN the extra points that is given from books and MOST OF ALL
the MUD BUDTHA items make all avaiable to be saved "i only buyed BOOK"..

PEACE and HONOUR :evil:
Modeler how in the hell did u buy 50000 stones in thirteen minutes tell me man i wana know howwwwwwwwwwww did u do it ? the stones cooldown is little at u ?

i got CLOUD couse i found the supreme martial arts book near the BLADESTORM and i selled it 2 OF THEM 30000 stone pure luck i dont beliwe u that u buy 50000 stones in thirteen min

IF U ARE SO GREAT SEND ME A REPLAY AT [email protected]

I like this game ITD A KICK ASS 10/10 :lol:
Ok, i bought 50000 stones after thirteen minutes of playing.
Its so easy for me to get 1 mil.
But you should have the price varaible.
I.E.
1 stone level 50- 2000
50+ 200- 4500
200+ -300- 7000
300+ -349- 9500
350- 12500

That way the noobies who play can buy stone at an affordable price, and the pros can buy it at the same - nearly the same - ratio.

Staff of teleportation:
This gets me so pissed of!
Noobs keep porting onto me and getting nineteen levels in 1 kill, the thing is i die in the process cause it freezes you, make it so any area 150- doesnt drop them PLSSSS, and the salesmen doesnt sell them.
Other than that 10/10 best version yet!
One flaw:
Teleport bug-
If you die while someone is about to teleport onto you sometimes you teleport onto him half-way then it stops and you freeze, i think this is actualy related to the spell-type, not sure though.
Gj randy, keep thoes rpgs aflowin.
Î didn`t play 2.1 yet, just saw it is out, but I found several bugs and therefor the possibility to abuse them while playing 1.5, so here we go:

1.)The Job "Hero Of Shaolin Fist" seems imbalanced, as you can Charm any bosses up to fei ling (that guy out of the Cloud Area), the point is, you just lvl up like hell, as u got a big guy killing the stuff for you.

2.) You can Charm a Peon out of the Orc base, get up a Lumber thingie, start harvesting Stones, get a hall and some burrows so you get even more peons (I used about 50, good thing they can Fly and Stone-trees regrow). This way u can reach lvl 350 in 1 hour, considering you start as a lvl 1 Shaolin.

3.) Souls will have problems sticking to anything if you own more than 1 unit, thats very annoying !

4.) In 1 game we had the Problem, that everyone who went up an ability lvl kept being invincible and that player couldnt scroll, even killing the hero putting him in a ship didnt get it done, they had to save and leave.



Now some suggestions:

1.) Improve the Stones, the tomes are at a high cost and mostly trash, as you dont keep +stats and the like. Further you need 10k+ to buy from mud budda, considering you cant save stones, you must search for lotsa great items and sell them to get stones, but you will rather want to help other people out giving them a chance getting some stuff as well (I rather hand a lower lvl guy an ancient mail, than selling 1 ...)

2.) Quest rewards, some are very good, others are nicely spoken, a filled spot and a great waste of time, like the one you get on long island,a book that contains 4 absolutely useless spells and sells for silver, wow, i rather keep the scale, looks more cool.

3.) Class Specific Weapons in general should b more powerful than those that can be used by all classes and the weapon-types should each have their own asdvantage, like claws being more speedie, swords being good for parrying adding very small evasion or axes being great when striking the right spot (give it ~1% to deal 10 times the damage or the like). I haven`t checked out the sets yet, but the "normal" items you can find are just boring.

4.) This gets me to the sets available at shops and shops in general, noone will ever have the stones required to buy one of those shop-recipes, further they are useless, as you get a common part in nearly all casses, so its better to search than buy, but i like the set system very much, just not the shop. Then again it reads Silver is needed to buy weapons and tomes, which is true, but mainly you need Stone, Silver is a waste, you can only use it in the very beginning and later on you can ignore it, as you got 1 million all of the time....

5.) You should keep the doors opened by quests OPEN, they simply close after a very short time ...

6.) Sometimes an advice where to find an enemy would be very nice, I searched very long for Fong for example.

7.) To effectively stop Item Trading, you must disable gold transfers, or at least lumber/Stones.

8.) My Last Advice is NOT to "spam" the community with a new version every day, I love this Map a lot, but having a ew version every day ruins it. Why ? Simple, it`s 3,9 mb large, making it a very long run to spread the map again and again, people easily get frustrated by that fact and the very difficult system itself, as most people never read "read me"s....


The last thing I want to say is, this is the BEST open RPG out there (not considering tose in other languages than english), it has lots of advantages united in 1 map and nearly no really dissapointing stuff. Keep up the good work 8)
when i cast clouds spell which displaces the enemy sometimes it pushes them through walls and game crashes... it happened to me when fighting evil of outworld.
randym4a1 Wow man that 1.5 wer its crazy man i cant stop playing its awesome but 2.1 its the baze

in 1.5 so much exppppppppppppppppppppppppppp wow

Il use it in multyplayer with my friend hehe :))

MAN u sayd that u can beat Xiong Ba on 50 lvl i cant beat him because he has WIND and CLOUD armor and ewery time i try WIND kills me oe is not that xiong ba .....
randym4a1 the bug in the dragon quest is caused bu the character u choose I am FROST character and Frost Dragon its my MATERIA that i used when i kill the dragon in the middle of the map screen blocks there u can move ur hero with right click but the screen doesnt move, and its the 3-rd time i play on this quest u try that choose FROST ghet FROST DRAGON stone and then go to beat that dragon u cant do quest.

At least tell me what do i ghet from that quest is it worth it i played so much to make that quest my lvl and i cant finish it :((

By the way tnx for the map and another thing nice skills on CLOUD U PUT but there is another bug there
u see when u use night ability the one that makes enemy blind and gives them 8500dmg it AFFECTS critters and hummans too if they got wind and clud armor they are safe if not IM THEYR ENEMY it says.

well i have to beat the blademaster but that scumb its hard to beat :)) GL HF

TNX for the 1.5 ver il try it now.
this ver is great but where can i download the Wind and Cloud V1.5 ???

if someone have it pls send me a copy to [email protected]


It was nice if u can sell those RECIPES cause they cost a lot of Stone to sell them for stone back its a GREAT THING .....
randym4a1 this map is the best map i ever played.
is perferct, i can only say: 10/10 :wink:
Well this is great map as u say Crazynutter.
randym4a1 the "frost/frostdragon" blocks screen after i make the dragon quest check that out, one more thing i have to tell u its that. If u say STONES are hard to find how can we buy CLOUD AND WIND materia then or how much we must play to buy that MATERIA.

It is supposed to pay 2000$ for 10 stones ....
how come we get only 5 stones per 2000$ :(


RESPECT FOR THE MAP MAN
This Version is More balanced i Think
To mad_panda:
Im sure the reason your commenting is some deep inset anger that you cant play this rpg to save your life, so now, try to look back on your life, remember all the crap thats happend to you? Now go back further, and kill urself...
Some errors:

Earth fire: Disconnects players 95% of the time.

Spirit of frost: Has some quest issues.

Frost dragon quest: Does not work.

level 350: Very boring.

Xiong Ba: Needs to either drop better items or make a boss after u beat xiong ba ressurected X times, he should drop better items, NO MAGIC!

Minor bugs: Shoalin monk says he can use cloud, he cant. Xiong Ba Conquers are beatable with good items at level 150. Spells can target 'helpless' units, such as on the shoalin monk quest (180). Fong sometimes disapears if u lose to red mountain quest. When a player goes on a quest, the map is reavealed to 'all players', make a variable for each quest and give vision to variable player. Horn Of Cloud's dreadlord sound effect is horribly annoying, please remove it. When using 'horn of cloud' your screen rotates and u inlarge, and shrink, then inlarge again, sometimes during this ur screen freezes.

Major bugs: Eye of god is purchasable. Mud buddha is invisable, and becomes visable only when ur evil, there needs to be a new way to buy items off him. Stones are far to rare, getting 300 stones is nearly impossible. Conquer, frost, and stormriders are extremely rare, perhaps increase there drop rate for the final boss? Night stalker level 50 spell, actualy nightstalker himself,are dreadfully overpowered, perhaps decrease his strength? You can drop a spell tome wait a few seconds and pick it back up, it will be completely cooled down.

Stat issues:
Fire Beast: at level 350 he does less than me when im at 300, also he has less armor and much less hp, im a wind warrior.

Nightstalker: Overpowered, horribly overpowered his level 1 spell does 3500 and stuns for 10 seconds! u can beat conquer bloods in 3 shots of it!

Hope this error list helps.


:0, i just reached level 350, like my friend. We played from 12 (in the morning) to 4 (in the morning the next day)
Btw i found some glitches:
When you use 'horn of cloud' the green rain special effect doesnt disapear.
Also the final boss ressurected drops really, really crappy items.
Cool Thanks For Adding me to Testers, ok now for the bugs iv found, the Fong, Dreadlord hero is too powerful, i was dealing 200 damage in like 0.5 seconds hehe and lower the EXP rate a bit
TOO MANY NEW VERSIONS!! ARAGHRAR
maker it in the middle, 1.1 was to little 1.5 is WAY to much.
maby 5000 for a blood conquer?
in the first minute of game noobs got to level 7 that took me hours FIX FIX FIX!
To much xp!!!!
lower it to near back to normal pls!
Or it will turn into a ff open!
Great and Awesome map 8)

And guess what i let people download the map, and if there is to many i give them the homepage where they dl faster.
I really begin to like your map !! ;)

Anyways got a lvl. 11 Fire Beast
GREAT MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too bad i cant host....
this would be one of the few maps i would still play in wc3. :cry:
Heh, an hour and a half later im now level 23 ADDICT!!!Found some errors,
the xiong ba area b4 you kill the camp, if you bring a ship near it, it will be moved into town and cannot move.
The red mountain quest is nearly impossible, i havent beaten it and iv tried alot.
The soul is controlable, its hard but you can veiw any part of the mpa if your hero is dead, you should maaker it if its out of raneg in a 1056 sized area, the soul will freeze until you revive (just a sugestion)

And i have a question, iv seen items that say Cloud on them, does that mean you can become cloud? And if so where is he found, let me guess kill xiong ba?
Btw very VERY balanced game for the mostpart, some units could use some tweaking.
Im also laughfing cause nobody is hosting this yet i keep hosting it over, and over, and over, and over. Iv hosted Dl only so many times, yet i see nobody hosting :/.
Im trying really hard to spread ur map, cause its a good map, also to show off my char lol :).

Ok i have 2 heros
Monk of Shaolin
Frost Dragon
1.3 hours
Level 5

Hero Yu
The Fire Beast
1 hour
Level 5

Btw My friend Totaly Hates this map, He doesnt like the Items,Creeps and everything else lol, but he is just evil hehe


Here is a Suggestion add more life to the Hero Yu - Fire Beast at level 5 he had 115 life and a Skill that totaly sux, its basicly a flame strike
And I see why the Windwalk/Backstab damage is so high, it never Acualy deals that much Damage hehe on the Boss it did 300 dam and on creeps it did 700
Can everyone post there type / level and how long they played, i wanna see the scale of whos who?
Sword Saint
Wind Warrior
Level 18
play time: 15 hours, addicted...
Just about to Play Again to see if there are any more Bugs hehe :twisted:
Sorry about unspecifications, his windwalk spell atattack bonus adds +500 damage, its a big boost so a level 3 guy can go and battle in a 15 area and get 123 exp for 1 dragon. not quite that much exo but its a huge amount, like 30.
Also lol GREAT job programming this, im addicted, MORE randym4a1 maps!
Oh i found another one! Ships can attack walls, like the wall behind the cities first gate can be destroyed.
One other glicth, if you buy a soul, and you die, but you have a summoned unit, it will hover to the summon.
Boy i just keep pumping em out.
Oh and i killed the mole like boss ALONE!!! it took 9 spells but it is possible!
bug:

WARNING: this is also a bit spoiler...

the hero of the shaolin fist (i thinks thats what it's called) can use his charm ability on most bosses... you wouldnt believe how much fun it is to run around the map at level 1 with 5+ of the most powerful mosters in the game under your command :P
A few more errors iv found, ok.
For the Sword Saint:
His attack does about 500 every time, its a spell u get at level 3.
Also i havent found any boss i can kill at lvl 8, am i not searching well enpugh or is the giant mole with the shovel the weakest boss?
Also make some level 5 or 6 quests.
They only problem i see with adding things is if it becomes 4.1 MB
Then you gotta delete stuff, and i know that sucks.
One other error is when a creep spawns on a mountain and its ranged, and ur not, ur doomed.
Hope this helped.
I THINK IM FELL IN LOVE WHITH A MAP ( this face keeps loking at me )> :D GRAA tell him to stop
this map is pretty good but its kinda hard so 1 of my freinds syas its need an eiser start, more hp in sart and faster lvl up.. and can u make the quest units so they dont attack while they r talking to u and make the cinamanic shorter they got me killed 2 times and i spend my money on a green stone that summons a dragon and it costed 5200 but it only had 2 charges and it made splash attack so it killed a sheep and made it harder to get quest...

4/5 keep up the good work i like the costom models and console so keep it up :D
Not to be rude but you do meen you cant send an unprotected one until you get back or you just refuse to send one out of security? If its out of security, didn't you say its all just for fun? I just want to read triggers to add to the list of fun fun fun! :P
HE** ya :D :D :D another bad a** :twisted: game by randym4a1 thx hope u make more in the futer randy :wink:
Can you send me an unprotected map on [email protected]? It can be an older version or something I just wanna learn some stuff. I promis I wond post the map or anything gay for noobs to mess with, besides im working on my own prodject. Your map is pretty good thank you!
So far i have Found 1 bug hehe

For The Frost Dragon spell on the Monk of Shaolin it says the hotkey is D but its Realy N

and 1 Suggestion, why dont you edit the Armor/Attack descriptions to Make it More interesting instead of having Hero Armor and Hero Attack hehe

Hope that helps
save&load?
Ok here are some flaws:
Level 1 units drop an item whitch gives +63 damage(shaman hammer)
some class switches dont work.
When you become an enemy nothing happens.
Some spawning points are to big and spawn units in strange points.
1 other thing thats not a glitch, it took me 2 and a half hours to reach level 7!
You need to increase xp by at least 1 or 2 points!
This site has almost everything, it just needs some music files :).
Btw HUGE MAP!!!
Lol my friends were complaining about its size, but its an awsome map 5/5.
more map from randy...
like it =D...
Yay...havent tried it yet but looks good


Also, why did you protect it? Most of the things are downloaded from this site anyways.
i havent gotten that far in this map yet but for what i have seen so far it looks GREAT i love he costum skin for the console keep up the good work
AWESOME! can't wait to try it out, been waiting for this since i saw it as your avatar :D
TO : Angel of Death's Fans
Yep i finally done this map now,,i almost lost this map when my PC got screwed ,,but lucky i got program to recoveries before i format my Comp,,well thanks to deteks.com :),, this map got lots of new features and Sets with different special effects and cool spells,,,

1 There are many different jobs to pick and transformers,,,lots of hero from different jobs..

2 Spells will be add when hero reach the level that requires,,there lots of cool spells by Vicky2004..

3 You can craft items too,,set items wont drop on boss,,you will find materials item and mix with the recipes..you may have to click F9 to read more..

4 All the duplicates/Multiples/allowable Items uses for heroes and ETC..added ,,

5 Saving Loadin System updated ,,you can now save unlimited items,,which mean any items could save on hero and soul..There lots more feature you may want to try it out now !,,for bugs/question you can email me at [email protected]

To: None angel of death Fans
Well if you haven't try My 1st map Angel Of Death ,,you probably won't like this map,,my maps is all about POWER/ITEMS/SPELLS and some fun stuffs,,as i say above,,you can give it a try if you like to...

1 Gay comments are not Accepted,,,im really tire of some idiot other map makers already,,this was my ideal for my map,,if you wanna give comments to other map than you must give your map a comment 1st,,i dont care if my map suck, i dont care what u guys say,,I DONT GET PAY ANYWAYS,,Make map its just for fun,,keep it in mind..

2 Only questions and bugs will be acceptable,, If you think my map suck or you dont like it DO NOT PLAY and dont be gay ! you know i WILL NOT GET PAY IF MY MAP GOOD OR BAD,, so remember..just for fun ..:)

ALL ICONS/MODELS/SPELLS are downloaded from wc3sear.ch Thanks to all owner of the resources ,, some of retarted dude say i copy model from FF open,,what a NOOB feel sorry for a noob :evil:
THIS SITE GOT EVERYTHING FOR MAP MAKERS .. SO BIG THANKS !