I’m remaking all of my old spells. I changed the stats of the Zerglings, made the spell summon more Zerglings, added more sounds and animations, changed the egg model, and simplified some of the triggers.
~The_Raven
~The_Raven
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12One day, I will update all of my old spells. When I do, I'll implement suggestions 1 & 3.
~The_Raven
~The_Raven
Finally checked out your version of zergling swarm here. Its pretty good, but it seems unnecessarily elaborate. Actually I like the egg part (but it should be the spider egg sack model, that is more like in Starcraft) but I don't care for the baby zergling. Do you think that is necessary to keep the swarm from getting too powerful?
Some more suggestions:
1. So there is no birth animation but I am expecting to hear a sound effect when they are summoned, it's lame how they just appear all of a sudden.
2. I prefer whitenights' method of summoning 2, 4, and 8 zerglings. The serglings wouldn't get any better, just more per level. Maybe 3 5 7 would be a better balance, I don't know.
3. The zerglings in the editor are pretty lazy by default. Zerglings are supposed to be hyper little beasts, I cranked up their movement speed and attack cooldown and they look much better. Of course then they kill things really fast so their attack damage should be lowered and I would say their hit points too. Perhaps u could really lower their hit points a lot but have two zerglings hatch from the egg (sac), thats what they do in Starcraft.
Some more suggestions:
1. So there is no birth animation but I am expecting to hear a sound effect when they are summoned, it's lame how they just appear all of a sudden.
2. I prefer whitenights' method of summoning 2, 4, and 8 zerglings. The serglings wouldn't get any better, just more per level. Maybe 3 5 7 would be a better balance, I don't know.
3. The zerglings in the editor are pretty lazy by default. Zerglings are supposed to be hyper little beasts, I cranked up their movement speed and attack cooldown and they look much better. Of course then they kill things really fast so their attack damage should be lowered and I would say their hit points too. Perhaps u could really lower their hit points a lot but have two zerglings hatch from the egg (sac), thats what they do in Starcraft.
#2 Top Rated! (At least for now.) A new personal record! (Of course, this is partially because of the downvoters in this section.) Thanks to everybody who gave me the ideas and help to make his spell!
~The_Raven
~The_Raven
No problem. I like to help other people make spells more then make them myself. (by a tiny margin)
Fixed the death animations. The only problem is that now there are no birth animations, but that's not my fault. The Zergling model doesn't have a birth animation.
I also changed the icon to Poison Sting. Thanks for the idea.
~The_Raven
I also changed the icon to Poison Sting. Thanks for the idea.
~The_Raven
Good.... much better now. I was thinking Spider sting or Scorpion sting whatever it was called (but i dunno y zerglings would have stingers) (EDIT: Maybe the devour icon?) EDIT: I actually hadn't rated it, so now that you have fixed all of the problems I saw, I give it a 5. (and actually rated it)
Good work
wn
Good work
wn
Lots of comments. I'll start at the top:
1. I changed the system by which the babies turn into adults. It should work now.
2. Darky did something like this, but in his, the units killed by the heroes with the Brood Eggs would have an egg implanted in them, which would, 15 seconds later, grow into a Spiderling.
3. I'm waiting until Starcraft: Ghost comes out before I start playing the series.
4. Couple things wrong with those triggers:
a. With my triggers, if the corpse is raised or removed, the egg will be destroyed.
b. I only have one periodic event trigger; I don't think that it lags the game noticeably.
5. Remove Fel Orcs: Done
6. Separate Creeps: I thinned them out. Hope it helps.
7. Remove wind: Done
8. I don't know what's wrong with the death animations, but I'll look into it.
9. I know; I don't like the Roar icon either. If you have any better ideas, I'd love to hear them.
~The_Raven
1. I changed the system by which the babies turn into adults. It should work now.
2. Darky did something like this, but in his, the units killed by the heroes with the Brood Eggs would have an egg implanted in them, which would, 15 seconds later, grow into a Spiderling.
3. I'm waiting until Starcraft: Ghost comes out before I start playing the series.
4. Couple things wrong with those triggers:
a. With my triggers, if the corpse is raised or removed, the egg will be destroyed.
b. I only have one periodic event trigger; I don't think that it lags the game noticeably.
5. Remove Fel Orcs: Done
6. Separate Creeps: I thinned them out. Hope it helps.
7. Remove wind: Done
8. I don't know what's wrong with the death animations, but I'll look into it.
9. I know; I don't like the Roar icon either. If you have any better ideas, I'd love to hear them.
~The_Raven
Re Witenights.. I have the same problem.. The babys do not grow as thay supposed to do!
Nice spell! However, I think the spell has been made by Darky in his Spiderqueen map already like I said in a reply to Lomacars post.... dunno if he ever posted it here though.
Nice spell! However, I think the spell has been made by Darky in his Spiderqueen map already like I said in a reply to Lomacars post.... dunno if he ever posted it here though.
I really like starcraft, and i say this ability fits well to the zergs' parasitic style.
If you don't have SC i recommend to buy it (it's not that expensive) and it's a very great game.
Now about this map.
The idea is excellent, except the baby zerglings spawning into adult ones doesn't worked for me either, so i took a look at ur triggers.
I think these spells could have been made much-much easier:
The zerg lord summons four zerglings. There's no problem. The zerglings eat out a unit:
here comes a trigger:
Events: a (generic) unit dies
Conditions: killing unit = zergling
unit type not=zerg egg and zerg baby
Actions:
-create 1 invisible egg caster (this unit would have an ability to cast a Sentry Ward what summons an egg instead, what lasts around 15-20 seconds)at position of dying unit facing position of dying unit
-order last created unit to place Sentry Ward at position of dying unit
-w8 1 seconds
-pick every unit by type(unit type=invisible caster) and remove picked unit (this can cause bugs but in really rare cases)
Trigger to spawn baby lings:
Events: unit dies
Conditions: dying unit = zerg egg
killing unit = no unit
Actions: another action like the one before: 1 invisible caster2 what summons a zergling baby with 10-20 second timer, then removes the inv. casters
Trigger to turn into adult ones:
a trigger like before summons a third type of invis. caster what summons an adult zling with a longer timer.
No variables were used, and much shorter triggers, and no periodic ones
There's an even easier method what doesn't even use triggers: (but i'm not sure it'll be perfect)
zerglings has black arrow ability, what has 0 second duration and spawns zerg eggs with a timer.
zerg eggs has spawn spiederling ability (u know what the nerubians have - they spawn little spieders on death) what spawns baby lings on death with a timer (i'm not sure this works on death cases caused by timer..)
baby zerglings has also spawn spiederling ability what spawns timed adult lings.
If you find erroes in these methods it is probably because i was improvising, and i didn't test this in WE...
And a few tips:
remove space felorcs... (if i try to help out the lings, they kill the units before the lings can do)
separate creeps to make easier to kill them with just zerglings
remove that annying lag-factory outland wind weather effect....
I give you a 5 because you wrote trigger what i don't even understand
and i'm sure you'll be able to fix the baby ling spawning into adult problem (or tell us whad did we wrong)
If you don't have SC i recommend to buy it (it's not that expensive) and it's a very great game.
Now about this map.
The idea is excellent, except the baby zerglings spawning into adult ones doesn't worked for me either, so i took a look at ur triggers.
I think these spells could have been made much-much easier:
The zerg lord summons four zerglings. There's no problem. The zerglings eat out a unit:
here comes a trigger:
Events: a (generic) unit dies
Conditions: killing unit = zergling
unit type not=zerg egg and zerg baby
Actions:
-create 1 invisible egg caster (this unit would have an ability to cast a Sentry Ward what summons an egg instead, what lasts around 15-20 seconds)at position of dying unit facing position of dying unit
-order last created unit to place Sentry Ward at position of dying unit
-w8 1 seconds
-pick every unit by type(unit type=invisible caster) and remove picked unit (this can cause bugs but in really rare cases)
Trigger to spawn baby lings:
Events: unit dies
Conditions: dying unit = zerg egg
killing unit = no unit
Actions: another action like the one before: 1 invisible caster2 what summons a zergling baby with 10-20 second timer, then removes the inv. casters
Trigger to turn into adult ones:
a trigger like before summons a third type of invis. caster what summons an adult zling with a longer timer.
No variables were used, and much shorter triggers, and no periodic ones
There's an even easier method what doesn't even use triggers: (but i'm not sure it'll be perfect)
zerglings has black arrow ability, what has 0 second duration and spawns zerg eggs with a timer.
zerg eggs has spawn spiederling ability (u know what the nerubians have - they spawn little spieders on death) what spawns baby lings on death with a timer (i'm not sure this works on death cases caused by timer..)
baby zerglings has also spawn spiederling ability what spawns timed adult lings.
If you find erroes in these methods it is probably because i was improvising, and i didn't test this in WE...
And a few tips:
remove space felorcs... (if i try to help out the lings, they kill the units before the lings can do)
separate creeps to make easier to kill them with just zerglings
remove that annying lag-factory outland wind weather effect....
I give you a 5 because you wrote trigger what i don't even understand
and i'm sure you'll be able to fix the baby ling spawning into adult problem (or tell us whad did we wrong)lolol... i know that post 
Hmmmm... thanks for the credit first of all.
Second of all, your ability doesn't compelely work for me because I never get adult zerglings from my babies.... do they need to be attacking or something? (I haven't looked at your triggers yet). My baby zerglings always die at the end of their lifespan instead of becoming adults. Also, my dying first summoned zerglings (summoned from my Zerg King) have no dying animation... theyre just removed. And just one more thing.... you could have taken the time to change the roar icon to something more appropriate. I don't say this to make it sound like your abilities are bad, but as constructive criticism.
I haven't rated the file yet because I'm sure you will change the problems
wn
EDIT:
as a response to Pyrodactal's response: I haven't really taken a look at your triggers because i'm tired, but your second method would not work (i was thinking about it earlier) because some of the point of the baby lings is that you want to kill them so they don't become adult lings... the spawn hydra/spider ability would create an adult ling if you killed it... but good thinking.
Hmmmm... thanks for the credit first of all.
Second of all, your ability doesn't compelely work for me because I never get adult zerglings from my babies.... do they need to be attacking or something? (I haven't looked at your triggers yet). My baby zerglings always die at the end of their lifespan instead of becoming adults. Also, my dying first summoned zerglings (summoned from my Zerg King) have no dying animation... theyre just removed. And just one more thing.... you could have taken the time to change the roar icon to something more appropriate. I don't say this to make it sound like your abilities are bad, but as constructive criticism.
I haven't rated the file yet because I'm sure you will change the problems
wn
EDIT:
as a response to Pyrodactal's response: I haven't really taken a look at your triggers because i'm tired, but your second method would not work (i was thinking about it earlier) because some of the point of the baby lings is that you want to kill them so they don't become adult lings... the spawn hydra/spider ability would create an adult ling if you killed it... but good thinking.
I got the idea from a post by Lomacar:
http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=2067
...and from whitenights Lomacar Spells:
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=225&sid=
Mine, however is different from both of their spells:
Summons 4 Zerglings to fight for you. The Zerglings will implant any units that they kill with eggs that will feed off the unit's corpse until they hatch as baby Zerglings. The only way to kill the eggs is to destroy their host corpse. After 20 seconds, the babies will shed their skin and evolve into adults, capable of implating eggs into their victims.
Lasts 40 seconds.
P.S. I don’t play Starcraft! So, please don’t post anything like, “I dont think this is like starcraft at all.. its more like warcraft.. i play starcraft and i know this is not like it.. i give it a 1/5.” An actual post; only the names were changed.
~The_Raven
http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=2067
...and from whitenights Lomacar Spells:
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=225&sid=
Mine, however is different from both of their spells:
Summons 4 Zerglings to fight for you. The Zerglings will implant any units that they kill with eggs that will feed off the unit's corpse until they hatch as baby Zerglings. The only way to kill the eggs is to destroy their host corpse. After 20 seconds, the babies will shed their skin and evolve into adults, capable of implating eggs into their victims.
Lasts 40 seconds.
P.S. I don’t play Starcraft! So, please don’t post anything like, “I dont think this is like starcraft at all.. its more like warcraft.. i play starcraft and i know this is not like it.. i give it a 1/5.” An actual post; only the names were changed.
~The_Raven