New Categories added, Voting gone

Arf! And I thought "that" picture explained everything to everyone. =P

good to see you "back" darky. i'm glad some changes are being made, signifying that you haven't died or given up on this site. some inactive mods still need to be removed like how sopho was.

Disputes could start for this system as well... Considering that people would just give 5/5 to spells which don't deserve it... So... I really don't encourage another rating system. For now atleast.

~Daelin

The rating system was a huge part of the site and, as such, was also a huge hassle. On sites as large as these, you will always get malicious-downvoters who want to ruin the system. Here's my opinion on this and what others have to say:

I don't understand the logic behind the removal of the rating system. I thought that was one of the best parts of this site.

The voting was one of the best parts to this site, Ike. I did believe in it, but I also understand why they removed it. It was the minority of the site who ruined it for the majority.

Also, although the rating system can and has been abused, it's more often used fairly than abusively.

True, this is a reason why it should still be implemented until a better system is constructed (if there will be). For the most part, it shows where a resource stands compared to others.

Also, I thought you were supposed to impliment a banning system for belligerent downvoters?

Me too, but nobody seemed to care and this is where the voting system went downhill. However, I can't complain. This site is huge and it takes a lot of man power to run and maintain.

The rating system was removed because no one was using it correctly or maturely, or was using it and not commenting.

I wouldn't say this, VGsatomi. For the most part, people used it correctly. Like I said above, it was a select few who saw it fit to disrupt the site. I saw "retaliation voting" occur and saw people downvote maps, just so that theirs could be on the Top 15 List. Is it just for those type of people that it was removed? If that was the case, then shouldn't it have been left on because most people used it fairly?

you can give 1/5 points to a resource, the changes are:

1 means good
2 means very good
3 means excellent
4 means Love it
5 means Best resouce ever

This may be a little too positive, Vexorian. Sometimes a resource is terrible and needs to be addressed that way. There may be another possibility:

Having a rank would be a good idea! The more resources or posts they have submitted, the more their votes weigh. This makes sure people who actually contribute to the site get some muscle on it. If that doesn't sound good, why not only let someone vote a 1 once every day or two. If somebody really had a huge problem with a map, icon, skin, model, spell, JASS, ect. then they would use up their single 1 vote and that would be that until the next day. This might cause people to give up judging poorly and actually make them start looking at the map or cause the idiots to leave the site. I know that this would take time to implement, but it would be a major improvement.

Overall, I believe a voting system (created and used properly) is a benefit to any site.

Also, going completely off-topic: What's up with the Icon Section? The rules specifically state that "Icons that dont have a DISBTN(disabled version)" are not acceptable, yet there are a load that don't have one. You remove the voting, but you can't bring yourself to remove rule-violating submissions. You could free up a lot of space by removing those! There would be obvious exceptions (like infocards). Also, since we're talking about changes, add an Infocard section to the Icons.

I think the voting system was one of the most useful things on this site because really most people used it as they should. You had with one view a quite relieable information on the quality of the ressource.
Just removing it is not an improvement. I think the solution of Vexorian is not bad, but it should start with "OK" and end with only 3 points so that it's not too strong if someone thinks that the ressource is really good. Also you should not be able to vote more than one time on a ressource or vote your own ressources.
Single one vote per day is too few, too, because sometimes, simply many good ressources are submitted and sometimes less useful things.

Re: New Categories added, Voting gone

Darky28The Voting Feature has been removed from all Resources :-)

at last!
now get rid of the 'directors choice' category

Re: New Categories added, Voting gone

stuffkikker

Darky28The Voting Feature has been removed from all Resources :-)

at last!
now get rid of the 'directors choice' category

No way!!! directors choice shouldnt go away!

and yes the idea of vex is good. no downrating,if you dont like, dont rate. good...

@ Vex's rating system...

@ Vex's rating system... NO! thats (sorry) stupid! as said 2 months ago, it's not just 1-I don't like it, 5-I like it! But people act as if it was! so, now, U wanna have a new rating system, and people will give a s**t on it and vote like be4! Not the rating system was the problem, but how people used it.

And the new rating system could be missunderstood by many people (i no, low english) 4 xsample, new datas would have the same rating as bad... therefor people may be forced to download crap OR ignore new...


Therefor I would prefer a voting system where the user Has to write a comment if he/she(/it) wants to vote, there4 a new commentsection for voting comments would be helpful, or that everybody can see how many people have voted 4 each option... maybe with the opportunity to C who has voted 4 what! WHY don't start a big voting about what voting system the users want? search 4 maybe 5 options, then lat the users decide which voting system is best! greets

Re: @ Vex's rating system...

UnLimiTeD@ Vex's rating system... NO! thats (sorry) stupid! as said 2 months ago, it's not just 1-I don't like it, 5-I like it! But people act as if it was! so, now, U wanna have a new rating system, and people will give a s**t on it and vote like be4! Not the rating system was the problem, but how people used it.

And the new rating system could be missunderstood by many people (i no, low english) 4 xsample, new datas would have the same rating as bad... therefor people may be forced to download crap OR ignore new...


Therefor I would prefer a voting system where the user Has to write a comment if he/she(/it) wants to vote, there4 a new commentsection for voting comments would be helpful, or that everybody can see how many people have voted 4 each option... maybe with the opportunity to C who has voted 4 what! WHY don't start a big voting about what voting system the users want? search 4 maybe 5 options, then lat the users decide which voting system is best! greets

unlimited,about the rating system you said,where we see who has voted,i ve been telling this time ago,but
some didnt like it because as they said it would cause "flames" between users.

but i suggest that again because

1) We skip the part where the author rates with 5/5
2) Users wont downrate without reason because their name will appear.

and yes yesterday night i've been thinking of the other If user rates he/she will be forced to comment. and if the user does a thing of this type;

(i rated with a 1 a spell because i hate the author,the site forces me to comment, and i write "I rated you with a 1 because you *** and f** you ***)

or whatever "bad" word he uses into a comment will result into a warn of the user.

into the other if he puts "fsjkgkrjgs;fgj jjgds;k gjs" random characters as a comment then will result
again into a warn if not into a ban...

where in this case we skip the useless rating.

think about it...

Yes I like Vexorian's idea, and you should only be able to vote a 1 or a 2 twice a week. However some resources realy suck, and a 1 should be "bad" not "average" I used the rating thing to see if what im downloading is worth my time, and to make sure my own resources are good. If i get several ones for one of my maps I wouldn't update it or try to fix what was wrong. I also believe you should have to post why you gave it that rating if you do rate somthing and you can't just write "no comment"
Darky - I think I allready said this but... welcome back and please make a Natures Call3 - I am thinking about making a large campaign to, but I'm to stupid to know where to start.

Finnaly... we thought this site would not go further if you didn't came back Darky... but please do not disappear again like the last time everyone said "Darky is back".

-Rui

Hey darky good to see u stopped playing WoW (or so i hope)

but i hate vex's rating system, i say we keep the old one but put on one of these restrictions:
-Make it so only certin people can vote, so like maybe u had to be active with this site for a year or a certin amount of posts i dunno
-make it so we can see who voted what and have mods that check the votes?

The problem with Vexorians idea is that there is no difference between "OK", "very bad" and "I don't know". There have been some good ressources which simply didn't get votings. Such a ressource looks very bad in such a voting system.

I like the idea to connect voting with comments. Every registered user should be able to comment (just like now), and if he does, he can vote also with 1 to 5 like before. The personal vote for the ressource should appear above every comment of that user.
There should be a limit so every ressource can have only one vote at the same time by the same user, he should be able to edit it later, like the rest of the comments. This is useful if e.g. the ressource is updated.
The total of all votings should show up just like before at the general information of the ressource.

This is one suggestion. So please COLLECT SOME SUGGESTIONS for voting systems and make a SURVEY over about a month, including of course the option "no voting system". The winner system should be implemented.

and a suggestion i would like to give, REDUCE the size of the site, the average size here is 150 kb,i mean if you save a site it wont go less than 140kb but some have size up to 200kb. for some strange issues yesterday for about 2hours i couldnt acsess the site.

and now it took me more than 10 minutes to enter this forum for posting this message. i assure you that my internet connection is very good! in fact is ADSL i could acsess any site with incredible speed but this one no, i did even a internet speed test and it gave me the speed about 460kb.

so now what the fault is??? maybe the site is too big.


and make avatars be up to 160x160 [b]but[\b] wich dont exed 30kb,now the limit is 100kb is too big if any one puts such an avatar it is fatal.

the size.... And the voting...

Nantuko_Huskand a suggestion i would like to give, REDUCE the size of the site, the average size here is 150 kb,i mean if you save a site it wont go less than 140kb but some have size up to 200kb. for some strange issues yesterday for about 2hours i couldnt acsess the site.

and now it took me more than 10 minutes to enter this forum for posting this message. i assure you that my internet connection is very good! in fact is ADSL i could acsess any site with incredible speed but this one no, i did even a internet speed test and it gave me the speed about 460kb.

so now what the fault is??? maybe the site is too big.


and make avatars be up to 160x160 [b]but[\b] wich dont exed 30kb,now the limit is 100kb is too big if any one puts such an avatar it is fatal.

rigth u r!! BUT maybe it's just that forum...

I got the main site loaded in5 seconds, but to enter this forum i needed more than 40 seconds and swiching to page2 took me MORE THAN 3 MINUTES! I couldn't enter the site yesterday, 2;
and i agree with U about the question with the Avatars.. I got a nice picture in 640x380 and i reduced it's size.. The funny thing was, after that, it wasn't anymore 4x3 centimeters, but it was still more than 200x150.. but whats the problem with a high detailed picture, the size was 9kb;::;
WHY don't use a system that limits the space of everyone's Avatar to maybe 6 Centimeters, and the max size 2 the said 30kb, so the detail wouldn't matter;

And by the way, 2 the voting system, maybe it would be better that only BAD ratings need to give a comment and U can choose if u wanna tell Ur oppinion to everyone;

(well, against the main oppinions expressed here, I think people may also vote bad with no reason if they need to commet it, not many people report comments! just look the comments in , i think, the colormanager, Some1 wants everybody else to vote bad because a similar looking and working programm was made by his brother)

AND, I DON'T LIKE THAT WAY OF ACTING! REMOVING THE VOTING-SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE ...


hf