What do you dislike most about DotA:Allstars?

What do you dislike most about DotA:Allstars?

What the topic says

All of the above + its excessive popularity, despite it sucking worse than a leech on the suckiest day of the year

All of the above + The fact the creeps are so pathetic, you cant upgrade them like even on other primitive maps.

So when you build up a train of 20 creeps and then 2 enemy heroes appear gang you and walk away without a sratch.
The whole map ends up just with the assassin heroes dominating and gameplay to just gangbang.
barely and other tactics or strategy.

Even at lvl 1 the mobs are useless...they're nothing more then fodder. Its all a battle between heroes....and when you get heroes that can run faster then anything in wc3, are invisible, can kill most heroes in 1 melee attacks and have the capabilities of killing entire clusters of heroes in 1.5 seconds with a spell...its pretty obvious where the game goes. Horrible balancing, boring terrain...there were creeps....?
-VGsatomi

All of the above definitly. the balancing especially is horrible, having a level gap of just 3 levels or so is enough to own lower level heroes, and the people who win the game are the ones that deal the most damage....casters with incredibly imbalanced spells like crystal maiden have such a huge advantage that it totaly ruins the game, same with techies and their suiciding attack, the game lacks to much strategy.....just get the strongest items and its gg

another dota bashing topic... doesn't this ever get old for you guys?

I actually play DotA, but I cannot disagree with you people. Creeps are, yes, a cash machine. The only funny part on the game is at start, where a high number of creeps can be a problem. Later, creeps are just annoying by blocking, etc. And Intelligence Heroes become pathetic later. Strength Heroes get a huge amount of hitpoints, and the casters' spells become useless. If a caster wants to own, he must stick with his allies and gain a good amount of kills to get the better items fast. In any of the ways, strength heroes totally own in dota. Terrain sucks too.

The game is kinda fun but I don't think that it's enough to be that popular...

-Rui

HEY u dont have the right topic

I DONT LIKE DOTA is because ITS A AOS MAP!!!

All of above + the Dota community.

I must admit I do enjoy a clan wars, simply cause generally both teams will be good and working together, and wont get things like e.g. some noob giving countless free kills to the other team.

But what really annoys me is this
" ap = noob, ar = pro" If the heroes were all balanced yea I may agree.

Several clans Ive asked and its pretty much.

Me: 5v5 -ap?
Random Person: no ap = noob, ar only
Me: huh, but 1 team might end up with crappy heroes and the other team unbalanced heroes?
Random Person: Yea but its -ar so its fair
Me: Why?
Random Person: Because its -ar
Me: well if we do -ap both teams can pick the best heroes so it will be balanced right?
Random Person: NOOOOOOO AP IS NOOBS!!!!

Then you do an -ar and its you only won because suddenly you had the better heroes.....

Wasn't that Random Person leaking on reason? -ar is more imbalanced than -ap. What if a team gets Centaur, Sand King, Sven, etc, and the other gets like Ezalor and other sucky heroes? GG!

-Rui

RuiI actually play DotA, but I cannot disagree with you people. Creeps are, yes, a cash machine. The only funny part on the game is at start, where a high number of creeps can be a problem. Later, creeps are just annoying by blocking, etc. And Intelligence Heroes become pathetic later. Strength Heroes get a huge amount of hitpoints, and the casters' spells become useless. If a caster wants to own, he must stick with his allies and gain a good amount of kills to get the better items fast. In any of the ways, strength heroes totally own in dota. Terrain sucks too.

The game is kinda fun but I don't think that it's enough to be that popular...

-Rui

i play it too... once in awhile. but i must admit. the only thing that is good about dota is the wide range of heroes. nothing else.

RuiWasn't that Random Person leaking on reason? -ar is more imbalanced than -ap. What if a team gets Centaur, Sand King, Sven, etc, and the other gets like Ezalor and other sucky heroes? GG!

-Rui

Yea, exactly that was my point

Draqz
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:
another dota bashing topic... doesn't this ever get old for you guys?

No...it's a lame game live with it...and if not...shoot your self...make the world a better place

Rui
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:
I actually play DotA, but I cannot disagree with you people. Creeps are, yes, a cash machine. The only funny part on the game is at start, where a high number of creeps can be a problem. Later, creeps are just annoying by blocking, etc. And Intelligence Heroes become pathetic later. Strength Heroes get a huge amount of hitpoints, and the casters' spells become useless. If a caster wants to own, he must stick with his allies and gain a good amount of kills to get the better items fast. In any of the ways, strength heroes totally own in dota. Terrain sucks too.

The game is kinda fun but I don't think that it's enough to be that popular... icon_confused.gif

-Rui

I agree later on creeps ar just thing that you can blame... iheard this over a million times "The creeps Blocked me (("

Dracula
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject:
HEY u dont have the right topic

I DONT LIKE DOTA is because ITS A AOS MAP!!! icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif

More Arena the AOS....aos is the basic idea of strategy game play...in witch teams are formed with the objective by helping out there army (creeps) to overthrow the enemy base (witch in DotA dosen't exist) and by the destruction of or capture of key elements/bases on the map

But what really annoys me is this
" ap = noob, ar = pro" If the heroes were all balanced yea I may agree.

I agree with the "random person"... if DotA is such a balanced game use -ar :/ ... and don't say: "it's not fair Enigma Sux" cause you are the same person that said DotA is balanced. And it's not that pro only that noobs get the best hero and don't do crap with em'

Rui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:
Wasn't that Random Person leaking on reason? -ar is more imbalanced than -ap. What if a team gets Centaur, Sand King, Sven, etc, and the other gets like Ezalor and other sucky heroes? GG!

-Rui

-ar can't be unbalanced cause DotA is such a perfectly "Balanced game" . I have also heard from a player the all heroes have a weakness and advantage twoards other heroes. that was the stupidest thing i ever heard of...and its compleatly not true.

The wider the range of heroes the bigger the unballance...thats what they don't get![/b]

Allstars is pretty fun imo. The only people I see complaining about it are either ignorant, or they don't know the heroes/spells/items/how to play. Sometimes the two go hand in hand.

In any case, I don't see the purpose of bashing it. There are those in the Allstars community who act completely stupid, but I know a good many people who play it AND are friendly and willing to show manners ingame.

Plus, the community outnumbers the haters by a large degree, so why the hell should they give a shit at the opinions of people who only bash a map because it's popular, or because they just hate it?

So, my conclusion is that some of you need to grow up and GTFO, and the rest of you need to try LEARNING about the game and then attempt to master it, rather than ranting about it's supposed flaws.

I have also heard from a player the all heroes have a weakness and advantage twoards other heroes. that was the stupidest thing i ever heard of...and its compleatly not true.

not really. the dwarven sniper has the widest range, but his hp is just the opoosite. have you also noticed that some heroes have ALOT of damage while some have darn little? this especially happens to most spellcasters. They have high damage when they should be casting spells, and physical heroes arent that much. although soul keeper is an exception. its totally overpowered.

Allstars is pretty fun imo. The only people I see complaining about it are either ignorant, or they don't know the heroes/spells/items/how to play. Sometimes the two go hand in hand.

In any case, I don't see the purpose of bashing it. There are those in the Allstars community who act completely stupid, but I know a good many people who play it AND are friendly and willing to show manners ingame.

Plus, the community outnumbers the haters by a large degree, so why the hell should they give a **** at the opinions of people who only bash a map because it's popular, or because they just hate it?

So, my conclusion is that some of you need to grow up and GTFO, and the rest of you need to try LEARNING about the game and then attempt to master it, rather than ranting about it's supposed flaws.

and looks like you need to learn some mapmaking.