haha mecheon... let me make things clear... it isnt only the bible that says that Jeesus really existed, the Al Khoram (the moorish bible, dunno the english name), also says it and other sources as well... isnt it a bit too much coincidence?
also how do u know that important persons (like Christopher Columbus, Napoleon, etc) really existed? well someone wrote about them, else we wouldnt even know about their existence! but the big bang, for example, is just a "theory", nothing more!
oh, and yes, thinking that we will die someday "really sucks", and i refuse to think that everything ends with death
and like i said before, why are we the only racional beings in this goddamn world?
P.S. laugh if u want, but i remember seeing in the TV, about 3 years ago or more, that a ship was found in the alps (dating more then 2000 years)... now tell me how the damn ship got there?
Saying a ship was found in the Alps isn't going to help you either. If you're gonna pull "WHOAMAGOD FLOOD" on me, the flood would have happaned much earlier than that. There have been at least thousands of years of unrecordered human history before then
And I don't know that Napoleon and Christopher Columbus existed. I believe they existed, as I have heard of things that they themselves have written and said. Not to mention that it was in a recent timeline
Ok, there's evidence for a Jesus existing. Now give me evidence that he actually did what he said he did, and that both books weren't actually made from rumours heard of the time and tales that have been strung around
Oh, and the entire God thing is a theory as well. We certainly don't have any evidence
And we're the only rational beings because of the most glorious device that is pure and simple luck. There is a high chance that some other being may also evolve to gain intelegence to our degree, or that there are beings like that on planets far away from ours
And as for how the ship could have gotten to the Alps? Certainly not as the Alps were being formed, as those were formed many millenia before humans ever existed. And I've seen very little evidence for a world-wide flood, which could only result from an excessive global heating, but even when the icecaps and snow didn't exist the earth didn't flood, so unless the earth has mysteriously gained more water, I find that hard to believe
Which leaves my thought-of-on-the-spot theory: A group of people who had a relgious connection with boats somehow, seeing them as something sacred or the like, and they took one of their sacred ships up there for a burial ritual
This was done by other ancient cultures, I could see it being done by another one
conclusion: u have one opinion about this issue, i have another totaly diferent
still i wanted to point one thing out: the boat wasnt on a small hill that belongs to the alps, it was nearly the top; and from what i remember from the report, the nearest place from where the ship's wood could be arranged, was somewhere around the black sea (if i am not wrong)
oh, and another thing, u said that Napoleon and Chris were from a recent timeline? well then i will make other examples, cleopatra, gilgamesh, and if u want an older person: hammurabi from babylonia
but i will not discuss with u any further: if darkshadow is paying attention to this thread, he will close this topic because we are speaking about "religious" matters, and i dont want to be blamed for the whole thread being closed
N£cr0m@nc£rstill i wanted to point one thing out: the boat wasnt on a small hill that belongs to the alps, it was nearly the top; and from what i remember from the report, the nearest place from where the ship's wood could be arranged, was somewhere around the black sea (if i am not wrong)
Reminds me of some other monument...hmmmm...what was it called, oh yeah, Stonehenge.
and those big stone heads in the easter island (was it easter or christmas? oh well dunno) as well; the nearest place where the stones could be gotten from was too far away, and natives only used some primitive boats to travel that couldnt transport things so heavy
Mecheon...just stop. This kids like 8; he in no way comprehended anything that I wrote. Not to mention that his understanding of the theory of evolution is minimal at best, non-existant at worst.
Now the problem is, that you see the word theory in the term "theory of evolution" and just assume that its just some idea that someone thought up out of thin air. However, there are lots of theories that we can't prove that we must assume are true in order to live our lives and continue scientific discover. The truth is that evolution is a theory that has a lot of scientific proof to back up its claims. Darwin spent most of his adult life studying and theorizing to come up with this idea, that was rejecting for a long time afterward by a lot of the scientific community. However, 95% of scientists today believe in the theory of evolution (those 5% who don't tend not to be biologist.) The truth is that neither evolution nor faith can ever really be proved.
Oh and about stonehedge, (its easter island ) isn't there evidence that the rocks came from a now dormant volcanoe?
Lets not forget that Darwin was amost completely ignored until science actually started backing up his claims. (darn that pesky science thing!)
And as for how the ship could have gotten to the Alps? Certainly not as the Alps were being formed, as those were formed many millenia before humans ever existed. And I've seen very little evidence for a world-wide flood, which could only result from an excessive global heating, but even when the icecaps and snow didn't exist the earth didn't flood, so unless the earth has mysteriously gained more water, I find that hard to believe
You talking about Noah's ark on mount Arrarat? It got stuck up there after the waters receded....supposedly.
as for the earth "mysertiously" getting water. We actually get about 2 tons of new water a day from particles in gasses floating in from space. -VGsatomi
antihero, i understood what u wrote, but i dont really believe on it, and yes, my knowledge about this theory is kind of short but still i know what it stands for...
i didnt say that this theory was an "idea that someone thought up out of thin air" and i also know that there are many things that back up this theory
well, i will tell u a bit of what i know:
i know that the idea of biological evolution exists since ancient times and was supported by greco-romans atomists (Epicurus, Lucretius, the few i really know of), but then with the belief on the bible, and that god created all species as they are now, the idea of biological evolution was lost, and only revived later in the 17th century by some french scientist (uh, i think he was called Lamark, or something like that), and finally by Darwin. Darwin travelled to some places (the few places i know he traveled to were: the galapagos, the falklands and tahiti) and later published his work, the origin of the species, in which he said that "groups of organisms" evolve through the process of natural selection (meaning that in a world where individuals must strugle for survival, only those with the best characteristics will survive, and these traits will be passed to their sons and to other generations which will become dominant amongst others). today, i know that the theory of evolution is strongly backed by the DNA, and i also know that chimpanzees and humans share about 99% of their DNA
btw, i know that some theories, are just that; theories (nothing more then a "speculation"). but some other theories, like the theory of gravitation, is based on facts (try droping and apple or something, and u will see that it will fall in a straight line)
i know that u may know a lot more then me, by far. but just because i am missing some parts i am a 8 year old kid? i believe in many things science says, but this theory, in my opinion, is senseless
EDITED: VG u are right, i was speaking about noah's ark; another thing that proves that the bible is correct
N£cr0m@nc£rand those big stone heads in the easter island (was it easter or christmas? oh well dunno) as well; the nearest place where the stones could be gotten from was too far away, and natives only used some primitive boats to travel that couldnt transport things so heavy
N£cr0m@nc£rEDITED: VG u are right, i was speaking about noah's ark; another thing that proves that the bible is correct
This is what I was getting at in my post, apparently it was too sutle for you to notice. It could've just been put up there like how they made Stonehenge, it wouldn't be the first time humans have done bizzare things like that.
jetpack, do u think that some crazy humans about 2000 years ago, when the only means of transportation were horses, would chop wood in some region of the black sea, carry it to the alps which is about 2000 meters tall, build a damn ship where the temperature is very low just to honor some god or any other thing? heck, i know that the stonehenge and those big stone heads in the easter island are bizzare, but this...
it is easier to believe that somehow the world got really flooded, and that a ship got stuck in the alps
Necro, I'm not sure if you noticed, but a bunch of crazy humans over 2000 years ago quarried stone to make several huge monuments honouring their dead. We call them the pyramids
I find it harder to believe that the entire world could have became flooded from massive rainfall. Countless species of plants would be extinct, along with countless species of animals. Don't give me the "2 of every animal", if there were only 2 of every animal still around, they'd be considered biologicaly extinct, and many of them wouldn't be able to reproduce enough to get back their previous numbers
Wuh? Mount Arrarrat? Sounds familiar to Arreat... No wait... That doesn't exist... Or does it?
My complex brain shall become converted by Diablo if I do not perform an action to help my cause...
Now where were we? Ah, apes. Yes, I saw the television show on it on Discovery Channel, then they had something on Tutankhamun's tomb. Or was it Tal Rasha? No, Tal Rasha doesn't exist...
I think...
EDIT:I had two "o"s in "to<- Arreat" Where are those plus signs in the "o" centers... Nevermind...
) isn't there evidence that the rocks came from a now dormant volcanoe?
