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UNPROTECTING MAPS?

27 posts
#16
Why is it selfish to protect a map? It's the easiest thing in the world to cheat on an un-protected RPG with save/load code! And if one player cheats on it, then it would ruin the fun for all others playing it.
And people DO change the map a tiny bit and give credits to themself.
One example: Enfo's Team Survival. I have 16 versions of that map (and i don't play much), there's barely any difference between them, and people all over the world have to spend sveral hours of downloading.

Lifedreamer wrote; "You CAN NOT steal something electronic like that. Its not stealing. Stealing means taking something physically from someone else so they no longer have it."
You CAN steal something electronic and not physically!
How about stealing a song? Or steal information from NASA's database? Isn't that stealing? Even though stealing a WC3-map isn't in the law-book is it wrong to do, because it's the author's work and if he chooses to protect it, then it's up to him.
#17

lol not

unprotect will always acsist and always be there
and lots off people use it.
becous there is no information on the internet about a spesefic kind off trigger and if tehy see it in an other map you don't give them an other option to unprotect the map !!!!!!!!!
#18
there protected for a reason once my maps go out of cycle i post the open source on the net so other people can use my triggers but while ther ein use i do not want someone stealing my ideas
#19
SophoHmm? I telling about not to unprotect maps. I am not saying anything about copyright, you can only unprotect maps though if you have permission or your a important person such as Darky.


I completly agree with what you say, and its realy good you made this topic but as you said before "you can only unprotect maps though if you have permission or your a imortant person such as Darky"
even though you important person doesnt give you the reason to unprotect it, you still need permission, darky or any other important people is still a person just like all of us.. only if you just looking in the triggers, thats ok (like oz and you said)
#20
Guys you are forgetting one thing, that complete noobs who want credit for a map will not have the skills to unprotect. Thus only people with skills who would do good to the map could unprotect. So there is no danger of a noob fucking your good map up.

Maps made: TBAA
Maps to come: Halo-The RPG
#21
personally i think all this mumbo jumbo about credit is so nonsense... i won't really give my reasons here, but if everything was left unprotected that would be ideal if u ask me... so what if people might 'steal' ur ideas or maps, the reward should come from making it... i mean i see some maps with names in the title, at the start of the game, in the quest menu, in some secret, on some unit, at the end... jeez i put my name maybe once in the map

if someone really does screw the map up good that v won't be played much anyways
#22
@Sopho:

First of all is this decision to block posts about map unprotection made by you or someone in high authority? Your not even a mod what power do you have to say that we can't post about this?

Second off, what gives darky any more right to unprotect maps than anyone else? Thats bullshit.

I'm 100% against map protection.
#23
crpye@Sopho:

First of all is this decision to block posts about map unprotection made by you or someone in high authority? Your not even a mod what power do you have to say that we can't post about this?

Second off, what gives darky any more right to unprotect maps than anyone else? Thats bullshit.

I'm 100% against map protection.


1. Sopho is a Mod, not as much power as I have in the forums, but still a Mod (Art-Section)

2. That would be a long discussion, I don't wanna say anything to this without Darky's knowledge

3. Same opinion (against map protection), but *sigh* look the b.net, thousands of maps edited by n00bs without giving credit. That's why we don't help anyone to unprotect a map.
#24
I think you should unprotect maps, only to view them, never releasing them modeified.
If your makeing a map, as someone said, ask them on how to do a trigger, and they will say no, in a much ruder fashion.
So that is the first thing you do, if they say no, unprotect their map, and look for yourself, but dont modify the map, or screw with it like a gay n00b.
#25
DarkShadow
crpye@Sopho:

First of all is this decision to block posts about map unprotection made by you or someone in high authority? Your not even a mod what power do you have to say that we can't post about this?

Second off, what gives darky any more right to unprotect maps than anyone else? Thats bullshit.

I'm 100% against map protection.


1. Sopho is a Mod, not as much power as I have in the forums, but still a Mod (Art-Section)

2. That would be a long discussion, I don't wanna say anything to this without Darky's knowledge

3. Same opinion (against map protection), but *sigh* look the b.net, thousands of maps edited by n00bs without giving credit. That's why we don't help anyone to unprotect a map.


1. Ok, I won't argue with this. Although its not for him to decide wether its "right" or "wrong" to unprotect a map. There is a thirteen page discussion about this issue on battle.net's forum.

2. You've made no point. My point still stands.

3. I realize what is going on in battle.net and makes me question my position in regards to map protection all the time. I don't have a problem with people editing maps as long as credit to the original author is given and it isn't a "n00b" edit(unbalanced, stupid edits). In fact I do this with maps alot, I only play them on lan though.
#26
You are right that Sopho has no right to decide if it can be discussed. He was not a moderator when he wrote that post, and he's only a mod of the Art section - which doesn't mean much on the forums. But, you are still not allowed to discuss it - sorry. Please leave this topic alone. All your doing i reviving an old topic that was written a long time ago. This discussion is over and I'm locking this thread. I'm tired of this discussion.
#27
*Unlocked*

Oops, yeah, you're right oz, he was no mod at that time, my fault. And I'm tired of that discussion, too.

*Locked*