Point set is, there are the ones willing to change, and the ones so idiotic no matter how much you try to help, and after frustration, flame them, they will not consider your ideas because of their naive point of the world which resembles, yet again, a spoiled brat, the main example, my little brother. When he's playing Gunbound, you come in, he misses, then starts swearing at you can tries to get you out as soon as possible. I plan to remark his gunbound folder as hidden then delete all his little shortcuts
As for the animal parts, yes, we are all naive little bastards, the little flaw the almighty being of whatever religious, or atheist, beliefs we follow. I will hold my ground against those that cannot recognize and obey authority simply because they are so twisted by reverse psychology and spoiled by their raisers, that I simply will not tolerate those sick bastards and simply: 1: blackmail/humiliate them in some way 2: passively make them suffer i.e. tell them they can get free stuff by uninstalling all spyware programs, then go searching "free music" on google and clicking every link, thus infecting their computer with countless viruses and spyware 3: somehow, more or less, sadistaclly, usurp a little power and invest it in a cause benefiting the majority, while crushing their little brains.
It's not because I'm cruel or extremely incompetent, it's that some parts of my life have been scarred with the fact that I must take things in my own hands, being the higher authority does not observe my acts, and must do my best to take vengeance in the most legal way, usually through blackmail.
If a dog is not hit or bitten for biteing it finds no flaw in doing the action again now on the other hand hitting an animal when it did nothing wrong creates the evil animal, you dont understand and raising something that does not fear being punished will cause many problems, religion and greed stops it.
Fear is used to control the people into doing as the Fear "giver" is in total control, religous leaders and kings.
As in the case of noobs, if they are not beat down for makeing a crappy post then they will do it again and again and again this is not true in all cases but in most it is.
wait! you forgot the other stupid excuse noobs use- " hey dood im just 12, or 13 or w/e" i agree with that "its just my first skin" crap. if its your first skin then at least take the time to make it look good!
and do you really envy me for my posts? or are you just mocking me? btw i have only 4 times as many posts and 1.2 times comments so you better update that.
you forgot the: "dont tell me that. i know what im doing. !MEEP! 'Nuclear Launch detected.' hehehe. i OWN at Anoder d! !BOOM! 'Major Noob has left the game for nuking himself'"
sadly, you have given after for the hate and the easier way. of course it's easier to hate, and being cruel. of course it's easier to punish than reward. but just so you know.. there are people like me. that know that we can live in harmony with all others. I have also being treated badly by persons that thought that punishment was the good way. the only thing that came out of that, was a nervous breakdown and eating medication for surviving the day.
you must understand, that punishment is the last option. the rewarding must come before that. it's the same with noobs, with prisoners, with animals. if you reward the good things they do, instead of just punishing them for the bad, they will change to the better.
and no, I'm not being naive. I've seen it work so many times. and I still belive, that if you just stop flaming and commenting bad on the noobs, they will change. come on! do you really belive that someone will scream stuff att you and come with excuses for them being just 13-14 if you say "you could do that better, but that is good, just read this to understand that, maybe use that instead. just keep working" if you do that, you are the naive ones.
hitting animals is always wrong. it creates an unstable animal, that fears too much. you should be the animals leader, someone they find security in, not someone that hits them if they pee on the carpet. when animals did that to me, I just showed them where they should pee instead, encouraged them for being interested. when animals have bitten me, I have let them bite, done some moves that shows them I don't tolerate that they bite me, and once, I bit a horse back since she didn't listen to my body-language.
I hope that you actually listen and treat people and animals better. they deserve it.
Agreed, but would you have any other choice but to kill a deranged maniac who is wearing shrapnel false teeth biting people because his teacher sarcastically said, "Ooh, you really look like a werewolf" with a shotgun?
Afro-I seriously envy wormskull for having about 4x my comments and about twice as many posts. I want the recognition of many post/comments, but without the spam. It's quite hard to be a good member of online society without flaming someone here and there simply because THEY CANNOT CHANGE.
Also, for some very strange reason, people think it will turn out for them because they are they and that some people couldn't care less about them. Take those punk retards you knew in middle school obsessed about things like drugs, sex, etc. You will usually think, "damn... they're gonna be big stupid bums when they grow up..." and that's usually true, in some ways, at least. Because, you can safely generalize their behavior if: -They're spoiled and don't KNOW how to behave -They are socially dysfunctional -They are like the people who want attention, but don't know how to make friends, and be their instinctal selves, jealously, wrong role models, and all sorts of stupid things
Its like the hot pot, you grab it, it hurts your hand, you dont grab it again because it hurt
I am for praising good actions, But I am for punishing bad actions,
The first sence remembered is pain, in the days teachers slapped knuckles with rulers problems occured much less, when spanking was not bad, kids were not as spoiled.
Im not talking about beating the crap out of someone/something for no reason, im talking about doing something to make them remember and jolt them to attention.
You slap and show them not just show them because by just showing them the noobs will get halfway to the door and then crap on the carpet.
On the other hand if they are smacked a little and showed they will sit by the door untill let out or impossible to hold anylonger.
I have never had a problem with an animal and I have raised many, they were never nonfrienfly to people and never bit jumped, or growled at people the key is to reward positive behavior and punish bad behavior if an action gos un punished or just a stern bodyposture, they lose fear of you and no longer fear to do the action.
Its like this.
Dog x bites his masters hand is just yelled at. Dog y bites his masters hand is yelled at and slapped on the nose. (not kicked across the room or anything.)
Dog x not getting his way bites your hand again. (BAD THING) Dog y not getting its way decides rather than barking and being slapped on the nose realises that he best not. (good thing)
Now say the dogs are treated like humans.
Dog x will again bute the hand. Dog y will not bite your hand but will be mean to others, who dog y thinks is lower ranking them himself.
You must remember that most animals view themselves in ranks, its owner must be the alpha male or top ranked of the group, but the dog must also beleive it is on the lower end so as not to growl at guests.
Without showing the dog you are the leader it soon will think that it can do whatever it wants and only be looked at, causing the dog to attack (contesting for your rank) or submitting.
Now to the point,
Noob x and noob y: post a resource of = crappy quality
Noob x is punished(flamed)and told what to do next time.
Noob Y is not punished and only told what he could have done.
Noob x thinks again before posting. his choices 1. posts again and be flamed. 2. Improve his/her resource as he was told hopeing not to be flamed this time. 3. never posts again.
Noob y thinks again before posting, his choices. 1. post same quality crap again, no one yelled at him they must like it. 2. post same quality again, (the person telling me what to do was a noob.) 3. flames the person who tells them what to do.
but then again another case arises a crappy resource is praised by atleast one person, the noob author now thinks that people love his/her work and he/she should produce 1000 more of = or worse quality as fast as he/she can.
So without strict punishment no changes will be made they simply will flame the more common members makeing it a worse place fore people who understand the rules.
this is genral.
I am not being cruel or hateful i am being strict,
It is how i would want others to treat me, If certain actions go unpunished then spoiled people will win.
hitting animals is only wrong when they are hit hard and or when they did not do something that is deserveing of the punishment.
Im guessing your also against spanking and other forms of punishment.
Notice punishment that causes some pain is not cruel or hatefull its simply the strongest way to connect an action to being wrong to do in your mind.
Its like the hot pot, you grab it hurts your hand, you dont grab it again because it hurt
Oh and if read this entire post without going insane or being able to understand it then your one to be praised.
Yes, I don't belive in spanking or other forms of fysical punishment, I know that if you're not prepared, if someone hits you and you're not aware of it, you will feel it much harder, and it will get you stressed. If you get stressed, you will sooner or later be afraid and do actions you can't stand for. The only punishment I belive in, is talking and understanding. The friendly way.
This may sound stupid, but I learned this from the birds I've had, from wild ducks and tamed horses and abused cats. I've only failed once with an animal, when I was younger. I still grieve that cat, even though she was aggressive and dangerous. That cat had been raised by my sister, that belives in punishment. Once, the cat peed on the floor. My sister grabbed her and pushed down her nose where she had peed, yelled at her. Of course, the cat didn't do that again, but she became afraid and aggressive. She would attack people without reason after that. She had to be put away. Now my sister has a new cat.. and does the same thing. And sadly, that cat is just the same.
The same thing with my rat. He had been punished by just a light slap on the nose. He started to bite people, they slapped him, he continued to bite people since he became more afraid.. what did I do? I put my hand into his cage, took him in my hand, and let him bite. I talked to him, created a stable surrounding without hitting.. after a couple of months, he stopped biting people and was on his way on becoming a friendly, happy rat.. sadly he had to be put away because of cancer. I wouldn't call punishment a good way, just the easier and shorter way.
And I know that animals see themselves in ranks, and yes, they don't see me as a leader either. What do they see me as? One that is on the same level as them. Some people will find that dangerous around animals. I don't. Sure, they can sometimes try to become leaders, but that doesn't happen often and it's easy to show them that you don't accept that without being violent.
My parents have never punished me for anything. They just told me what the rules was, rewarded me for the good things I did, and didn't flame me about the bad things I did. instead, they told me what would have been better, and comforted me. Adults.. or well, adults older than me, have always said how good raised I am. I'm not spoiled, I do my work around the house, still, I don't get punished.
But I understand that you have your view of raising strict, and I respect your opinion. I have found a way that I think works better, but maybe your way works better for you.
