I think dota is a great game. I am getting a little tired of hearing dota bashing all the time. Is it cool or something to say that a popular game sucks? I have never once heard a good reason as to why dota is such a bad game. someone please explain it to me.
DraqzI think dota is a great game. I am getting a little tired of hearing dota bashing all the time. Is it cool or something to say that a popular game sucks? I have never once heard a good reason as to why dota is such a bad game. someone please explain it to me.
- Unbalanced heroes - People who host the game have some fixation with the fictional word 'banlist'. It's a blacklist for god's sake! There is no such word as banlist! www.dictionary.com - The map is very messy - The items are hideously imbalanced - The items are not ordered in any kind of fashion, making it very hard to pick up - The game is VERY slow paced and repetative - The whole item combining feature takes you away from combat, and is very annoying to work with if you're new. - Terrain is crap - Lack of stratergy - Imbalanced sides - Very steep and unrewarding learning curve - Lots of crap that you could only know about by venturing away from the battle, stupid idea.
The only reason the gay shit rains supreme is because people like the powerful shit, have you ever seen an ACTUAL expert play DOTA, I haven't. The only good DOTA was the original, balanced one. The main reasons I hate DOTA is its fucking screwed up and hosted too much.
Don't forget about resource stealing that Guinsoo did (using someone's resource WITHOUT telling the author). Even, he pretend to be a great mapmaker by making 'Random Babbling' on the Quest Menu (version 5.84).
It says, he creates all of that triggers on his own, even he get an idea (spell) from another one, but he re-create it and reclaim it as his own properties.
OMG, just for re-create it? damnit! I deprotect his map, and guess what?
I found Vex's dummy unit with Cookie's dummy model. Even, the tooltip still says about vex's link, http://wc3campaigns...bla...bla..bla..., EXACTLY the same
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i hate dota because:
1) The heroes are annoying unbalanced 2) Most of the heroes were just copied from the first few versions and put together 3) The game relies too much on heroes. You can have 1 hero against 5 and still win 4) The map is small, making it quite boring after some time 5) Most of people who play it think that it's such a great game, but they just dont know better maps
1-Unbalanced heroes 2- People who host the game have some fixation with the fictional word 'banlist'. It's a blacklist for god's sake! There is no such word as banlist! www.dictionary.com 3- The map is very messy 4- The items are hideously imbalanced 5- The items are not ordered in any kind of fashion, making it very hard to pick up 6- The game is VERY slow paced and repetative 7- The whole item combining feature takes you away from combat, and is very annoying to work with if you're new. 8- Terrain is crap 9- Lack of stratergy 10- Imbalanced sides 11- Very steep and unrewarding learning curve 12- Lots of crap that you could only know about by venturing away from the battle, stupid idea.
1.)unbalanced? I think not. Considering the amount of heroes they have, and the diversity of their items/abilities, the fact that they can even pull off a reasonably even match is an accomplishment. What will make you win in dota is not what hero you get... its how well you play and work with your team. Most people that say that Dota is imbalanced, either don't utilize their character correctly with the appropriate items, or they don't work well with their team, or simply don't know all the items/heroes in the game and how they work.
Just because one hero has a record of 12-3 doesn't mean they are overpowered. Some heroes are designed to assassinate other heroes, some are designed to push lanes, others are designed as support. If you play your role correctly in your team, and work with your team, your team will win if you are the better team of players.
2) the disticntion between "banlist" and "blacklist" are trivial and has no relevance to the game quality of DotA
3) Messy? please explain.
4) I have used every single item in that game depending on what chracter I am and who I am up against. If items were unbalanced, why doesn't everyone always buy the exact same unbalanced items?
5) I think their shop organization is fine, there is a shop for stat items, a shop for weapons and armor, a shop for utiliy items, and a shop for items with charges. not very hard to pick up.
6) This game isn't meant to be a hack and slash die 500 times and kill billions of creeps in 2 seconds. It is designed to revolve around positioning and placement tactics as well as correct hero execution and teamwork.
7) The item combining feature doesn't take you away from combat if you know what you are doing. This item combine feature allows you to progress with your items more efficiently without having to sell previous items in order to make room in your inventory. I thought it was a rather clever solution.
Terrain is crap? inciteful... please tell me why the terrain is crap.
9) I don't know how you can honestly say that DotA has lack of strategy (you may want to use that www.dicitonary.com site that you seem to be so fond of). There are countless builds you can do for each hero with different items you can get to accent your character. Not to mention the numerous pairings of heroes and abilities that you need to utilize in different unique situations.
10) imbalanced sides? see #1
11) The concept of DotA is very easy. Getting good at Dota, takes alot of time and paitence. However, just because a game is difficult to master, does not make it deserving of a "crappy game" title.
12) are you talking about runes? roshan? extra neutral hostile creeps? Im not sure what you mean by your last point.
1.)unbalanced? I think not. Considering the amount of heroes they have, and the diversity of their items/abilities, the fact that they can even pull off a reasonably even match is an accomplishment. What will make you win in dota is not what hero you get... its how well you play and work with your team. Most people that say that Dota is imbalanced, either don't utilize their character correctly with the appropriate items, or they don't work well with their team, or simply don't know all the items/heroes in the game and how they work.
Just because one hero has a record of 12-3 doesn't mean they are overpowered. Some heroes are designed to assassinate other heroes, some are designed to push lanes, others are designed as support. If you play your role correctly in your team, and work with your team, your team will win if you are the better team of players.
Ok. I was playing a game of DotA, and I thought I'd use that satyr unit from the Night Elves. My 'role in combat' is clearly a lone one, assassinating lone heroes and whatnot.
I find myself up against a sole water elemental reskin named 'Enigma'. No matter how many times I get a back attack in, no matter how many allies I pull from other lanes (even with 2 other heroes, he still couldn't be killed), no matter what I did, he'd just stand there continually casting Death and Decay. And a stupidly strong version at that. Now, I used my hero as he was ment to be played and still got nowhere. His items were no better than mine and I still lost.
2) the disticntion between "banlist" and "blacklist" are trivial and has no relevance to the game quality of DotA
I don't think you understand, there IS no destinction between blacklist and banlist, banlist is; not. a. word.
3) Messy? please explain.
The map is messy, what more do you want?
4) I have used every single item in that game depending on what chracter I am and who I am up against. If items were unbalanced, why doesn't everyone always buy the exact same unbalanced items?
Really? You must be worse at DotA than I am. 90% of items in DotA have no use.
5) I think their shop organization is fine, there is a shop for stat items, a shop for weapons and armor, a shop for utiliy items, and a shop for items with charges. not very hard to pick up.
I think I'll stand by my origional comment.
6) This game isn't meant to be a hack and slash die 500 times and kill billions of creeps in 2 seconds. It is designed to revolve around positioning and placement tactics as well as correct hero execution and teamwork.
See #1
7) The item combining feature doesn't take you away from combat if you know what you are doing. This item combine feature allows you to progress with your items more efficiently without having to sell previous items in order to make room in your inventory. I thought it was a rather clever solution.
How many games of DotA have you played? The combine feature takes a good minute of combat time every time you have to search for that damn combination item. The game lasts say, 45 min so that's just over 2% of your play time JUST to combine a single item. God only knows how much it'd add up to in a full match...
Terrain is crap? inciteful... please tell me why the terrain is crap.
You can master the item combination system in DotA with ease but not see that the terrain is crap?
9) I don't know how you can honestly say that DotA has lack of strategy (you may want to use that www.dicitonary.com site that you seem to be so fond of). There are countless builds you can do for each hero with different items you can get to accent your character. Not to mention the numerous pairings of heroes and abilities that you need to utilize in different unique situations.
The science and art of using all the forces of a nation to execute approved plans as effectively as possible during peace or war. Nuff said.
10) imbalanced sides? see #1
Indeed, see #1
11) The concept of DotA is very easy. Getting good at Dota, takes alot of time and paitence. However, just because a game is difficult to master, does not make it deserving of a "crappy game" title.
Getting good at DotA takes 2 games. Play the first and take note as to what heroes are horribly imbalanced, and on the second game play as them.
12) are you talking about runes? roshan? extra neutral hostile creeps? Im not sure what you mean by your last point.
I have no idea what those are. If finding them gives any kind of combat advantage, then they shouldn't be in there.
I don't want this to degenerate into a flame war, so for my part I'm going to end on this afterword;
If you like DotA then so be it. I don't go around DotA games bashing people in them, so I don't expect any DotA fan to bash the DotA haters in a DotA hater's thread. Deal?
i played dota for 3 weeks ... i started haveing scores of 25-0 :/....so i started joining the -ar games so i never pick my own hero ... guess what ??
i just discover other imba heroes :/ (skel king, chaos knight , earth shaker, lion, nerubina assasin, Sven etc.)
Plus there always be leavers and noobs..
the other 2 things that iritate me are....
1)DotA is an arana meap in witch you can just destroy the enemy base... i pay no importace to creeps. killing heroes gives me plenty of money
2)DotA is the only hosted game... i got Black listed 5 times (2 times cause host was laggy noob, 2 times cause the host didn't like the way i crushed all opposition and last time cause a guy i never saw befor said "i know him his a noob team killer ..ban him!!" :/) and still i play dota and people never say to me...sry you're banned you can't play :/)
I'm just sad all i see is dota games on Europe... and i payed 37 $ to play war :/ and i get dota.
i stoped playing dota and tribute cause gigantic unbalance
Terrain is crap? inciteful... please tell me why the terrain is crap.
