As a matter of fact I don't really care about director's choice, if it makes you guys so uncomfortable I will remove my DC spells.
This was the first text i pointed my eyes on. And in my eyes this is 'low'. Why low? Well let explain: He just said about giving another DC is a bit too much coincidence. U feel urself so 'guilty' for having DC Spells, that u had to delete them? Jeez man, like i said: in my eyes it likes u want to get other members on ur side, because they liked ur spells. We never asked about 'deleting' , so don't get pissed on us.
In my opinion I think that the spells I like happen to also be the best. I might be wrong but I am the moderator.
'I might be wrong but 'I' am 'the' Moderator. U are the moderator yeah we know! Our all favorite Moderator! Well okay, maybe not but ur a moderator to balance this site, and not standing cool with powers.
By the way, try understanding what the Term Director's choice means
Director's choise yeah, i know. Spell choosen by moderators. But a moderator giving another moderator a DC is kinda strange. Its like a situation like this: Moderator Moderator Moderator ------------------------------ Member Member Member ]
{Moderators --> Can give DC to the ones under them}
I guess its this way all have to understand, not? If i'm right, Members have respect for their moderators, and all spells they create. And if the moderators want to have also a special area like we have, then i suggest create a new one, with MA = Moderator Awarded. Create a vote system, and voila! Hard isn't it?
- Northstar uploads a spell map with a Stolen spell. And some other spells I don't remember.
Lets get to the point, its useless discussing again and again about this. Arksword and all others would receive their credits from their map. No reason for deleting.
just one simple question that i wanted to know... if i make a map from SCRAP (not editing an already existing map), and i add skins, spells and icons made by other ppl, i must ask their consent if i want to post it in wc3search and i must give em full credits right?
btw, i have another dilema... i have downloaded some skins loooong time ago... the guys who made the skins deleted them... now, i dont even know to who i must ask consent... what must i do? forget the whole skin?
oh yea, i got exactly 2423 maps in my wc3 download folder, i know it isnt much, but still i can say a couple of maps that are just copies of the original version and that are submited in this site, but what can i do to denounce those "thieves"? i mean, where can i send the map to so that u can believe me and delete it?
Here's my own 2 cents on the subject: Credits is by in large a courtesy. We are not going to delete a map just because someone didn't give credits. We will delete, however, if they take credit for something they didn't make.
There are over 2300 skins on this site...over 2100 models. If someone chooses to use your resource over all those others, that alone should be an honor. I played 3 maps so far made by other people that used my resources...it felt pretty darn good, even though not one of them gave me credits. As long as they don't take credit FOR my work, I have no problem with it. The spells section may be a different case, but with skins and models, there's nothing saying that you have to get permission to use a resource in your map. Once they are posted to the public, they are available and free to the public.
And about DC's....there is NOTHING wrong with a moderator awarding another moderator a DC...just as long as they don't award their own stuff (unbais opinions are required for resource awarding). Mods are to award resources that they feel are above average quality...if that resource happens to be made by another mod, then so be it. I've had two of my own maps awarded by other mods...that was probably because they honestly thought they were good, and not just trying to do me a favor. -VGsatomi
if i make a map from SCRAP (not editing an already existing map), and i add skins, spells and icons made by other ppl, i must ask their consent if i want to post it in wc3search and i must give em full credits right?
Not exacly. But it's a matter of respect.
And btw, if Vexorian deleted his spell pact, it's because it was better that way. You people can whine if you want, but that won't change the mods' mind. Like the nerubs say "what's done is done".
Well said Rui... Ok, I'm glad that the problem is finally solved. And N£cr0m@nc£r, you should start making spells as well... It's much better than only supporting others and makes you feel better.
Well, sure okay good, no other questions, all is fine. So now i just want to ask @ VGsatomi: why the heck did u delete my skin, + giving me no reason? Since it doesn't violated the rules... I worked 1-2 days on it and u just delete it, thats so funny don't u find? http://www.fragmentsoflife.com/DHBeta.jpg This is the DH, now tell me why u deleted it, and don't giving replay at my PM meanwhile i ask for a reason.
about credit, awhile back there was a big thread on that. you should check it out.
i didnt even bother watching the old threads, after all, replying to a thread that is 2 weeks (or more) old is anoying as it stands in the rules
it felt pretty darn good, even though not one of them gave me credits. As long as they don't take credit FOR my work, I have no problem with it.
sorry if i am stupid but i didnt understand this... if they create a map without giving u credits they are already taking all the credits for themselves
You people can whine if you want, but that won't change the mods' mind.
whine? i could give u a good reason for "whining" but like i said before, i wont speak any further about this issue
And N£cr0m@nc£r, you should start making spells as well... It's much better than only supporting others and makes you feel better.
actually i am making an aos map with a friend of mine, but the map is already too big and my pc is just a 600mhz and it takes AGES to add something
P.S. please can someone update the rules section as soon as possible, or is it just darky that can do it? and once again, thanks to all replies
Delete requests. You know what those are? Its a little button that people who think your skin is lousy push in order to highlight it for deletion. A lot of people pushed that little button. Why did so many push that little button? Dunno, probably because they didnt like the fact the skin is mostly recolor and filers...something that surely doesnt take 1-2 days to do. And why are you posting a beta skin? If you want feedback before you declare it a finished work, you are supposed to post it in the skins forum. The download section if for finished works only.
And as for the PM, excuse me If i don't feel like responding to "OMFG WHY DID YOU DELETE MY SKIN!!! ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW!!!!!!"
If you can't be civil, don't even talk to me. -VGsatomi
Like someone said before, mods may have lost respect for members, but I think that's because you people lost respect for the mods aswell. Instead of "OMFG WHY DID YOU DELETE MY SKIN!!! ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW!!!!!!" you could have asked it in a good way, instead of that "almost about to flame" way.
whine? i could give u a good reason for "whining" but like i said before, i wont speak any further about this issue
Hell, whine, being too rushy, what else can I say...?
Hell no, I only have the chance to come here on very rare situations and I end up finding this thread.
Let me get this straight: - A guy steals a spell. - Vexorian tells him to delete that spell from his pact. - The guy doesn't delete the spell. - Vexoiran deletes it - 2 guys (Probably they are just the same guy that made the spell pack) come to whine about that.
I don't know where do you find any sense to it, I don't find any sense to this, and I don't know why wasn't this closed.
i am not sure about this one... but again why are these maps that i said (dota and dbz tribute) for download? after all, all they did was take the original map, do some modifications and didnt even care about giving full credits to everyone, not saying that they didnt ask the consent of the original map maker to post it in wc3search
I think Vexorian said that using anything in the spell section is Redistribution instead of just using stuff. He also said that he does not moderate the maps section.
no, it wasnt only read by 2 guys, actually i read it too... want to know why i didnt reply? simply, because ur moderator there... and guess what, i am AFRAID... if u deleted north star spells without hesitation, then u would do so to my "offensive post" right?
I don't see the point on acting as a victim, I don't see why would it be different to respond there from responding here. I think that Vexorian was able to ask people to delete this thread if he wanted to.
first u say u didnt feel offended, but then u say i insulted u?
I think he meant that he didn't feel offended by the Director's choice whinning, but I think he did get offended by people saying he was just jealous. By the way isn't that a retarded argument? Was that map that good that Vexorian would be jeaolous of it? haha, please show me that map so I can opine about this.
Director's choise yeah, i know. Spell choosen by moderators. But a moderator giving another moderator a DC is kinda strange. Its like a situation like this: Moderator Moderator Moderator ------------------------------ Member Member Member ]
{Moderators --> Can give DC to the ones under them}
I guess its this way all have to understand, not? If i'm right, Members have respect for their moderators, and all spells they create. And if the moderators want to have also a special area like we have, then i suggest create a new one, with MA = Moderator Awarded. Create a vote system, and voila! Hard isn't it?
I don't get any of your points. You mean that moderators don't have the right to have stuff in DC? That's kind of lame considering that the spell section mods are Vexorian, Daelin and Darky28. I doubt there are any way to prove that their spells aren't the best ones ever.
And also I've seen mods giving DC to other users as well, try checking the DC area of the spell section and you will note that.
Lets get to the point, its useless discussing again and again about this. Arksword and all others would receive their credits from their map. No reason for deleting.
I think you have a really big learning disability. I wouldn't mind for models but WHAT'S THE FRIGGING REASON TO INCLUDE SOMEONE ELSE'S SPELL IN THE SPELL SECTION? What I understand from this is that the other spells weren't that good and the guy was forced to also include a spell made by other person FOR NO REASON.
I don't see the point on doing that, people could just download the other spell from its map.
In fact I think that mods should change the rules agains submitting someone else's spell in a spell pack for no reason. Even if you credit the guy that made it, there is no point to include another guy's spell in your SPELL map, I thought that we were supposed to upload OUR spells there.
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Anyways I would want to know what makes you guys expect the rules to be the same for every section. Have you noted that spells are different from maps, for example ?
If a map contains a simple spell anyone would be able to make, it won't get deleted, but if the map is submitted to spells section I think it should be deleted?
I don't get any of your points. You mean that moderators don't have the right to have stuff in DC? That's kind of lame considering that the spell section mods are Vexorian, Daelin and Darky28. I doubt there are any way to prove that their spells aren't the best ones ever.
Heh, actually some of my spells are quite lame. I left them, since they were the pride of my past, though they are crap by now. They respect the rules, so that's why I didn't delete them. There are worse spells than those, still on the site. And lately I was involved in some other stuff, and didn't upload any spells (except the Kelani System stuff which was a failure).
And there are other people who post excellent spells, such as Blade.dk.
i though we had settled this problem but now some freakin ****** comes in and pisses me off? fine
- 2 guys (Probably they are just the same guy that made the spell pack) come to whine about that.
hahaha this was a DAMN good joke... i bet mods already checked my ip out, and if they didnt, i tell em to check it out now, surely they will see that i am not north star or Ex-Angel by checking and comparing their ips with mine
I don't see the point on acting as a victim, I don't see why would it be different to respond there from responding here. I think that Vexorian was able to ask people to delete this thread if he wanted to.
acting like a victim? u sure are good at making jokes, i didnt loose anything so why should i be acting like a victim, uh? also i have been in other forums and when a damn mod got pissed by something someone said, he would get his posts deleted right away
Was that map that good that Vexorian would be jeaolous of it? haha, please show me that map so I can opine about this.
now u said everything i wanted to hear, haha, if u didnt EVEN waste ur time seeing the DAMN maps, why are u posting? u dont even know what we are speaking about and u still want to post? surely u like to piss ppl
i think you have a really big learning disability. I wouldn't mind for models but WHAT'S THE FRIGGING REASON TO INCLUDE SOMEONE ELSE'S SPELL IN THE SPELL SECTION? What I understand from this is that the other spells weren't that good and the guy was forced to also include a spell made by other person FOR NO REASON
again u didnt even care about watching the map and u still speak about it? just shut up if u dont know what ur speaking about
Anyways I would want to know what makes you guys expect the rules to be the same for every section. Have you noted that spells are different from maps, for example ?
i tell u what... vex just said that ppl who imports crap into their maps need to ask the maker's consent IF THEY WANT TO SUBMIT IN WC3SEARCH
EDITED: just saw daelin saying the following in another topic, happy now? need anything else? no? then ****
So yeah, I think this stealing rule applies to ALL the sections.
P.S. i would be glad if someone want to post about this, MUST BE FULLY AWARE OF THE SITUATION, not just post crappy arguments[/quote]
- The file was made by Vexorian (I give permission to use my models in Wc3sear.ch's spell section)
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- You have an Explicit permission from the model author to DISTRIBUTE IT ON THE WC3SEARCH's MAP SECTION.
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- The resource was made by blizzard
Otherwise I will delete spell maps that have imported files from other people.
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If a spell map has a SPELL MADE BY SOMEONE ELSE, I will delete it. I don't care what the situation is, It will be deleted.
If a spell map has a piece of JASS code (functions / systems) It is valid as long as: - You give credit to the functions/system author.
This was Vexorian's post in a post about Northstar's spells. Daelin followed by agreeing and saying it would be a rule. This is the real issue not some stupid argument Necro. This basically says that any map containing resources that were used without permission of the author will be deleted. Now I don't know about anyone else but I think that this is a stupid rule. If it is inforced just know that I for one will totally disregard it and I hope that others will do so as well. Spells in a spell map I can understand you not letting people put in their spell maps but icons/skins/models/systems just makes no sense at all. If Vex really thinks this way then I say he can take himself and his powertrip somewhere else.
Ok, let's take it this way: You have the model on the site. Changing the special effects or icons is simple. Some might say that they don't have an idea about how to add new ones.
Well, it might be the same with the newly imported models/icons/skins. For god sake, there will be people who won't like those either and so they will want to change them but they won't be able to. Conclusion? Same problem. And I've seen dozens of maps with custom skins, useless, just for the caster. C'mon guys. Spells are supposed to be small maps, to be easy to transform. Not just maskly add custom stuff into it. That's why icons and models sections are for. I hope these arguments are sufficient.
And same applies for taking someone else's spell. I will make sure to add this rule. And now Necro, don't come telling me that I'm trying just to get away. The map would've been deleted anyway, before or after the rule. So ok, I didn't mention this rule, but I deleted the map before adding it, not after. It doesn't make difference. It would've if I would've warned the user.
It's much better than only supporting others and makes you feel better.
