The "Great Troll War" Mod

Kinda tough to talk about 50 years before WCI when there is very little about it, and the only thing that had anything about it was of the Great Troll War (found it via Google, it was actually a section of the Blizzard site, but I never figured out how to reach it from blizzard.com, so I always used Google; they took it off after the announcement of the Burning Crusade =(. It specifically said that the war started in Southeast Azeroth. Remember also that trolls, Forest Trolls especially, are like rocks, wherever you go you'll find some there. Also, at this point, the Forest Trolls are still broken, although they've recovered enough to form clans. All the trolls in Azeroth will unite under the human threat. They will be able to carry the war into nations like Khaz Modan, Stromgarde, and Quel'Thalas (among many others) b/c they can constantly add trolls to their ranks wherever they go on either the Lordaeron or Azeroth continents.

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omg, no need to bump it dammit...maybe 1 or 2 times a week but definitly not everyday.

sorry wulfy just trying to keep it up the top!

Southeast Azeroth is FAR out of Forest Troll territory. I would expect to see jungle trolls or snow trolls there, but definantly not the forest type

Just look at any map of Azeroth. The southeast is the Swamp of Sorrows/Stranglethorn Vale, both of which are inhabbited only by Jungle trolls

To be exact, the area known as Azeroth is made up of Elwynn Forest, Redridge Mountains, Westfall, Duskwood, the Swamp of Sorrows, Deadwind Pass, the Blasted Lands and Stranglethorn Vale

Forest Trolls are found in Lordaren. Lordaren is the Tirisfal Glades, Silverpine Forest, Alterac Mountains, Hillsbrad Plains, Arathi, the Hinterlands, Quel'Thalas, and the areas which are now known as the Plaguelands, though used to be part of Lordaren. Of those places, forest trolls inhabbit all of them except for Alterac, the Glades and Silverpine, and those are the only places in all of the world of Azeroth inhabbited by Forest Trolls

Mecheon do you have to be so smart!?

Actually, he's overlooking something major here. That major thing is that he's refferencing World of WarCraft material, but WoW is set over 75 years after the mod. In that time, there have been three massive wars which have forever not only changed the inhabitants, but the landscape as well.

Taking into account that he is using WoW material, which is much too far in the future to truly use as reference for the mod, and also taking into account all the events happening between those times, it might be quite possible that I purposely constructed the storyline so as to explain how the Forest Trolls came to be only on the Lordaeron continent and not in Azeroth. Didn't think of that, did he? Also, the Dark Portal is caused much of the warping of Azeroth's fair terrain, and thus many geographical features in WoW are simply not applicable in GTW. Even many geographical features in WCII are not applicable to GTW.

Why do you two have to make life so confusing.... Lets just leave at the fact that you two will be arguing forever in this forum about which trolls live where... Or the other way around you confused me to much!

Fine, I'll pull a WC1 map out on you

Black Morass is where the Blasted Lands and Swamp of Sorrows are. Duskwood doesn't exist, being all nice and stuff. The Vale is still the Vale, and the thing only shows up to Stormwind

The Horde first met the Forest Trolls after crossing the waters between Lordaren and Khaz'Modan, which is in the north of Azeroth

The only forests in south eastern Azeroth are Elwynn, inhabbited by the humans and gnolls, and Duskwood, which back then was human territory as well though soon about to get rampaged over by a bunch of orcs followed by a large group of pissed off Worgen

Forest Trolls could NOT have lived in south east Azeroth. I think what it's talking about with this troll war is the internal one between groups of Jungle Trolls relating to Hakkar. Basically, jungle trolls worship Hakkar, some find out he's evil, bunch still like him. Troll kick worshipper's asses and force them into this one temple in the Swamp for all eternity. No mention of forest trolls at all

You need a boat to cross from Khaz'Modan to Lordaren, hence the intro cinimatic of Warcraft 2. Yeah, there's a huge arch connecting them, but that's pattrolled by dwarves all the time. Oh, and it existed several hundred years before WC1, so yeah

I've looked-over the WCI maps. I respect them more than I do the WCII, III, or WoW maps, but it's still possible the portal could have twisted the areas near it.

Also, the text specifically said Forest Trolls. Anyways, The Great Troll War was probably the event which drove Forest Trolls out of Azeroth.

Also, I know of the great land bridge (actually, there are three). I'm not going to comment on whether it is used or not yet on the grounds it will reveal too much of the storyline.

you to are the smartest people with wc lore i know...... maybe you should continue your argument via PM or something..

mavus i saw what u posted about mecheon at the troll forums..
and for that i hope u burn in hell.

Wulf im sorry about that... mecheon made me on MSN and i did it out of frustration... sorry!

Werewulfmavus i saw what u posted about mecheon at the troll forums..
and for that i hope u burn in hell.

Now thats the spirit

There's only two arches, built by the dwarves after the War of the Three Hammers in order to keep the Bronzebeards and the Wildhammers in contact with each other

But I'm still VERY dubious about forest trolls being in Azeroth at all. I mean, if the Skullsplitters, the Darkspears and the Bloodscalps can hate each other and yet still live in the same jungle, I can't see a random group of forest trolls living in either a swamp, a human filled part of forest or a rocky pass between said swamp and said forest (Deadwind Pass, we KNOW its been there pre WC1 because Medivh has said that it was if he was ment to build a tower there) living there for very long without getting slaughters. At that, it would be very hard for them to actually get there. They would need to travel through a forest, then through a small mountain range (Redridge), then into a volcanic wasteland (Burning Steppes/Searing Gorge), then into a wasteland (Badlands), then they'd be in the Loch. Then to the Wetlands, then FINALY cross the gap and in Arathi

Now, in WoW I can make that trip in about 10 minutes on wyvernback. Now, lets look realisticly. It takes a regularly sized army in the Warcraft world 3 days to go from Hammerfall (East Arathi) to Durnholde Keep (East Hillsbrad). Arathi is east of Hillsbrad and is a rather smallish zone compared to things

So, based on a rough estimate, I reckon it'd take weeks on end for any group to go from the south eastern end of Azeroth up to Lordaren. And most forest trolls were up there anyway, after the Helves and HUmans versus trolls war