Warcraft III resources & community, 2003–2006 · archived

Over Capacity

75 posts
#46
WarnicroWell people can always submit their work on epicwar.com, wc3anvil.com, hiveworkshop.com and maps.worldofwar.net and wc3cam,paigns.net with an approval.
overall I guess this is gonna cost some people to leave the site and visit others.


Well the problem basicly is that the site has so few talented people left that it cannot afford to lose anymore :P
#47
I personally think this warcraft fansite is the best visited website of them all (correct me if I am wrong).
#48
This W3 site is the best.There is no doubt.If darky dosen't pull through,and this site dies...
#49
personally approval of resources like models and skins isnt a bad idea it sends crap away and keeps things that someone is bound to see as quality instead of having a model/skin that only leads to flamming in the comments

maps their are plenty of other sites to go for for that i say rid this site of them completely

spells thats something you guys would have to think about on your own
#50
The answer is simple. Spend more money for another harddrive to add to the server. Set up a paypal donation acount to pay for it. Otherwise you are done with file hosting.

Cut down on old material. To do this simply put a hardcap on the file archive. Any new posts of files will delete some of the oldest posts to make room. Throw in an option for authors so they can refresh their files so they are not deleted. Yes, you would lose some files. Yes, people will get over it.

You could also contact blizard and see if they would help keep the site alive. It's not uncommon to see sponsored websites.
#51
Wc3search may get most visitors but it is far from the best site.
#52
Wc3search may get most visitors but it is far from the best site.


Yet you still keep coming back here. Why?

You could also contact blizard and see if they would help keep the site alive. It's not uncommon to see sponsored websites.


Blizz doesnt sponsor anything fan made. The closest thing they've done was open their new mod site to host a few fan maps, but that is more of a farce then anything else.
-VGsatomi
#53
is there any possible way for a mod here to completely block people from downloading? or would that not help even if someone could?
#54
Well... I was expecting you people to choke me with comments to what I first posted here. So, my ideas were not so bad? Or was the post too short to be noticed :D :) ?

Anyway. Let's see. 14.999 Resources. Total.
How can we cut down the size of total entries of all resources in WC3S if my usggestion about the rating system would be considered worthy to implement?
Hm... We need to implement a coding algoritm. A unique coding system, based on letters and digits, so we do not interact with special characters that browsers might parse wrong...
ANSI chars and digits. That would be, from "A" to "Z" and from "0" to "9". What does the ASCII table tell us? Well, it says we got a space from #65 to #90 ("A" to "Z") and from #48 to #57 ("0" to "9"). So, that makes a total of
(90 - 65 +1) + (57 - 48 +1) = (25 +1) + (9 +1) = 26 + 10 = 36
We'll only use uppercase characters in order not to make the damn coding system case-sensitive. If any request would send lowercase instead of uppercase, the returned file would be invalid.
Now, how many values can we code using this system? Hm... Thinking of binary... Let's take Byte type (Pascal / Delphi / Kylix). It has 8 bits, resulting 256 values (2 ^ 8). So, the rule is NumberOfValues ^ TotalNumberOfPositions.
So, in order to cover the 14.999 total resources, let's see...
36 ^ 1 = 36
36 ^ 2 = 1.296
36 ^ 3 = 46.656
That means that we can refer to any of the current resources based on a 3 characters code, instead of using an URL longer than 3 characters or links containing so many parameters. I know that WC3S currently uses a numeric coding system. I dare say it's not so effective.
If WC3S would only use a main ResourceIDTable, then the total size of entries to all WC3S per user would be 14.999 x 3 = 44.997 characters per user. 44 KB. I don't know what's the total number of users registered to WC3S. The total size of RatingDB (let's call this database this way) would be TotalNumberOfUsers x 44.997 bytes.
Tough, this may lead to unwanted database size... So, each user should have a database with all the files he/she uploaded to WC3S. This way, we only require 1 instance of every file in WC3S in order to save the UserRating and AdminRating.
The DownloadHistory (let's call this way that supposed-to-be new section in the UserCP) would take... let's see... 50 downloaded files per site section ... 9 site sections... 3 characters per downloaded file...
50 x 3 x 9 = 1.350 bytes per user = ~ 1.32 KB per user.
As users rate their downloaded files, the DownloadHistory would clear up.
In conclusion, I am sure that rewriting this website would only lead to good things. Yet, Darky is so hard to contact...


People, this is not the time to squabble about whether WC3S is or is not the best site around. We all want to keep it around, but this discussion is not appropriate for now. If you still want to debate this issue - use the specific forum pages, not the news entries. I refer now especially to ragingspeedhorn.


And, I'd like to suggest one more thing. Set the resources sections based on 2 main "rooms". One called something like "Beginner's" and "Advanced's". Each "room" should have exactly the same sections like now.
All new files should be uploaded to "Beginner's". This "room" should have that 50downloadsBeforeYouRate restriction. Over a while (3/6 months or whatever), based on the ratings and downloads, the file could be "promoted" to "Advanced's". This room would have the RateEveryDownloadBeforeYouDownloadAnotherOne restriction. If any file in both rooms does not keep it's rating and/or downloads average over a certain admin-specified quota, it should be deleted, a notice of this fact being sent to its author 14 days prior to deletion.

Each "room" should keep it's files on a different server/hard drive, as files in "Beginner's" would come and go faster than those in "Advanced's", thus free-space fragmentation would be greater on the hard-drive where "Beginner's" files are stored.
In order to keep things right, a policy about how many downloads have been performed should be implemented, in order to prevent users downloading only from "Advanced's" room, where "great resources are stored".

Anyway, people, please comment these suggetions! Especially moderators! I feel as if I were some kind of a mad man, raving around talking nonsense.


EoF.BlackDoom;
#55
BlackDoomWell... I was expecting you people to choke me with comments to what I first posted here. So, my ideas were not so bad? Or was the post too short to be noticed :D :) ?


or it could be that some people like me dont even understand half of em because i dont know coding :P
#56
:lol:
I am not a web developer.
I don't know crap about php or anything like it.
I don't even know s**t about HTML!

So, I just want to know if these ideas are ok.
This is why I even explain my ideas. I know quite enough about Pascal/Delphi programming, but this is nothing near Web developping.

So, please, anyone. Ideas?
:P :roll: :wink: :D
#57
VGsatomiYet you still keep coming back here. Why?


Because the site is still worth a look every now and then, it is not bad or anything, search has it's good sides aswell, but I still disagree on the part that it's the best site around.


@BlackDoom - I don't care, I'll post whatever I want to whether you find it apropiate or not.
#58

Nuu...

I hope whatever the problem is can be fixed soon... but this could be the end...
#59
BaD_HeXThe answer is simple. Spend more money for another harddrive to add to the server. Set up a paypal donation acount to pay for it. Otherwise you are done with file hosting.

The current server at tiscali.ch is not dedicated, it's a shared server that (last I checked) also hosts approximately 30 other sites. Simply adding another hard drive is not possible. :(

The site speed problem is definitely solvable by optimizing some of the site code.

The site storage problem will likely require either removing some of the resources, or moving to a dedicated/VPS host that offers more space. Based on what VGsatomi said of Darky's situation, this likely won't happen.
#60
WarnicroI personally think this warcraft fansite is the best visited website of them all (correct me if I am wrong).


WC3Sear.ch is by far the largest resource for downloads. It's by far the most visited Warcraft III site.

That said, it's fallen a lot. Much of the maps aren't amazing. The site's amazingly slow. People don't update maps, they reupload many copies of the maps. Amazingly, there's 1 version of DotA Allstars, but at the same time, there's so many maps which nobody downloads.

Almost every major Warcraft III modding site of the past is getting worse. maps.worldofwar.net is having some problems (or has had some recently). WC3C managed to fight back from the dead, but it's not nearly as active as it used to be. Mod Forge, which was one of the better sites years ago, has finally died. At the same time, the newer sites are getting better. TheHelper.net is getting better. HiveWorkshop, WC3Anvil, they're getting better, in the eyes of the majority of most War3 players. They help out the people who ask stupid questions, they don't flame them (as much). Honestly, the worst thing is that people on the many sites seem to hate each other. If the sites hate each other, it'll just speed up their demise. Site wars will drive people away from both sites in the site war.