Getting tired of this.

thats not flaming, and most of the times he was right.
flaming is like damn you suck you fucking noob

* The race of the resource (OMG IT IS A PANDAREN, I HATE PANADARES! 1/5)

I feel sorry because I know than it's me who post this . I'm sorry, i was tiring to see pandarens in the model section, I wont post this kind of comment again.

I also see myself in the "GREAT 5/5" and I'll explain more my viewpoint now.

Everyone must read this topic it help us to get better, and I admit than i was getting bored by some of the same reasons. I thought about a link to this thread in the rules...

hmm, yeh, this whole deal: right on! its basicly why i removed my resources from this site (didnt got flamed alot myself, but it still matters what kind of audience one is dealing with to be motivated to share ones hard work)
However, i also think moderation played a part in this. For one reporting a comment hardly seems to get noticed, for i once reported vegeto (or something) for flaming, and it took about 4 months till his post actually got removed (and my guess is cuz he got kicked from this site altogether). Then the directors choice thing is offensive in the way that some high skill models get passed on while rightfield shoved his boxlike stuff straight in there for example.. it attributes to the wrong atmosphere, elitist yet pretentious (cuz personally I cant say I agree on the standards being handled for it, seen the kind of stuff there is in there, and the kind of stuff there isnt..)


anyway,
I think voting should be removed altogether. I think its ruining the galleries at wc3campaigns as it has been ruining this place, cuz its quite obvious 99% of the voting ppl dont understand the purpose of voting (and i think 1-5 is too rough for proper voting), and it discourages people who actually desire usefull feedback (cuz "WOOHOO 5/5!!!" doesnt help anyone, and "bah 1/5" doesnt either.. and when given 10 times 5/5 and 1 time 1/5 its the last one that makes an impact, so the power of flamers and lamers is too big).
Just comments should be enough.

Re: Getting tired of this.

VexorianEver got into a moment where boom! you are completelly mad against something?

I will tell you all the truth, I am getting tired of the whole site, and I decided to post this because something beated my patience

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=783

A guy rated that with a 1, I wouldn't mind that much if the guy posted good reasons behind that (the rest of the other 14 ratings were 5) Man if he posted something like:

I am voting 1/5 to this because
a)...
b)...
c)...

I would understand, but arg he just voted 1 for unknown reasons, This destroyed my whole patience because I just spent 1 month on that system trying to add and add more stuff, and updating it, flooding irc with links to it, expecting to see responses on how it works, and I only got responses from 5 guys and the other were like good system and that stuff, which I didn't need, someone that didn't like appeared and just voted it with a 1! without giving me feedback.

And NOW you realize that? It's been so for months, probably many before i joined. I couldn't resist one week here. Hordes of noobs that think you're on their service. The amount of feedback you can get on the forums is near to zero. Flamers, downraters, and spammers have been ignored for too much time, and who's to blame? *drum roll*
Honestly, there should have been rules from the start of the site; serious rules, not the ones that have been patched up two months ago. You complain that the skin section is flooded of recolors'n crap. Well, do you expect the newbies to follow the rules, when the moderators themself don't?
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Skins&Authors=Konblade
If you look at this forum, you'll notice a lot of suggestion for all of the problem posted above. Suggestions that have been always ignored. No wonder the situation is so tragical.

I am sorry Vexorian

I am a 5/5 Great!!!! voter person

But your post sure swayed me so i will make sure i vote properly from now on *bow*

I'm checking this site EVERY day and I always will find it that Darky28 seems to have left us...

When he made the WoW site he even told us that he WOULDN'T leave this site...

But hey, doesn't it cost to host a site like this?
So he can't really have forgotten it if he gets bills about every month?..

Or does Wc3Campaigns host it for him?

You are so right about the commenting! I've seen people which rates 9999999/5 while it's mostly worth 4/5 or 5/5...

I really likes this site but if Darky28 doesn't show up yet something BAD will happen...

For every ppl that has WoW, Search up Darky28 and tell him to go to this site! Btw, Is day of the Fish and Return of the Dragon ALSO dead?

Everyone's solutions sound interesting and may help in some way, but the truth is that the only way this site can become the perfect place completely relies on it's users. Without Darky around we can't really change any features of the site or fix any bugs since neither myself or VGsatomi have power over the sections and general coding of the site.

@Freakazoid:
I'm not sure what your point is - Wormskull is long gone from the site.

dude, vex, and every moderator on this site... I agree with all of you whole-heartedly. this kind of thing has got to stop, I, for one, am tired of these retarded noobs who think they rule the world, when there are elder members who actually know what the hell they are talking about when they rate bad on a model, skin, etc. I have witnessed people like this, and to give an example: I saw one of those knstrukt models, and I like them, I think they're pretty neat, especially since I think they're all handmade. Some guy commented "These 'konstrukt' things are neat and all, but there are so many and they're all so useless outside of a starcraft map or something, and they all seem to be pretty much the same thing over and over again." they did say they were neat, but didnt give any suggestions, he just didnt know why they were always being added to the site... If it doesnt interest you, don't post, please? If you don't get why they're beeing added, doesnt mean someone else will, and same goes for usefullness; If you can't find a use for it, doesnt mean I can't. These noobs on this site do not understand how much time and effort go into making models and skins. I for one, cannot make them, because I do not have the money for photoshop or a 3D modelling program .

Vex, in other words, do not leave completely, I love your work, I think they're awesome, and you must work very hard to get them to work as well as they do. It's just these damned noobs who joined just to put-down these hard-working modellers and graphic artists. If you ask me, I think if they know so much about what's good and what's bad, they should make some shit of they're own, Oh, whats that? you cant cuase you don't have the software? THEN DON'T F**KING POST! jeaz... it's that simple. I also think, that people can't vote less than a 3, or comment anything negative unless they have successfully sumbitted about 5 things in 2-3 catagories, and by successfully, I mean, about an average of 3.5/5 rating and not being removed, and actually approve people's opinion, or your a mod or super mod; not just some lame ass who hasnt even submitted a single piece of artwork onto this site, and critisizes everyone else's hard work... i just don't get it, do you?

yep

you go, wh00t i have wanted to say this for soo long, anyways ppl think its easy to mod or something, and just flame away at all sorts of models, vex i can't see u complaining about the comments since ur systems are about perfect. and one thing that has really earned a bad nam is geomerging just cause now it is automated doesn't mean it doesn't takt time soemtimes geomerges can take longer than scratch models trust me i've tried both

freakazoid: wormskull has never voted, he just commented, most of the time he is harsh, but other times he actually give a lot of constructive critism. it doesnt matter since the whole wormskull thing is over since he has been banned about a month ago.

The sad thing is, the first post, is all true....
Comon people, at least try to tell what/why you like/hate something.... sheesh

getting further into this topic, I think that we should now stop saying 'i totally agree with you, this needs to stop' and such, but that we should relaly take action, even if it means someone else running this site, not darky, because hes too busy paying his 17.99 a month for internet wow play . though he seems to have dissapeared from wowledge also..?/ Well first: Vexorian should be a super moderator/site admin for all intents, purposes, and flashy nametags. mods should make some serious productive changes to the rules, like tighter submission stuffs, and MORE MODS. mods are the shepereds, and we are the lambs. What follows are myy beliefs, and to avoid more words, ill take the place of a mod:

What Mods should do:
when people post ANYTHING ANYWHERE, the post needs to be atleast 3 lines long. Like Eusira suggested, no voting a 1 when resources have 'X' votes 'X' high. Be On More. Many mods i see i have never heard the names of before, and dont seem to be doing much, though, of course, i might be wrong. Have more strict resource guidelines. If something doesnt go in accordance to the rules, without a second thought, contact the author and take down the resource. This should done more openly, and more often. On the other hand, people-warning needs to be taken care of more carefully. Though these people i have heard might be lying, I have heard posts saying how they didnt do anything, and had no idea what went wrong and people got confused. Though a really don't want to bring this up, I was unfairly warned for 'map stealing' maps that were actually in fact mine. VGSatomi made a mistake, im certain they were mine and had no affiliation with other people. And my map file doesnt exist at all on this site, and I have no idea where VGsatomi could get info that those maps were someone else's, without a user telling him/her. I don't wanna go in any further deatail, in the chance i could get banned.

I gotta go right now, update this later.


DDNGW

Ok, that's it. WoW sucks. I'v never played it but I hate it.
I have read a lot (that's how it's spelt!) about it and it looks great, but way too many features.
And yes, I do like RPGs.
Do we really have to pay so much for so little? I'd rather be gay.
I'll bet you that Blizzard meant to name it World of Warcraft. (WoW for short)
I hate making long posts.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
No, I didn't read that much, but still, a lot.
Long posts...... Moo says the cat...

Yea I worded that statement wrong...

See that post above mine? That is a newbie post... ^_^

Earlier I meant those people who show up and act like they run the place, but they have absolutley no experience. Bad wording on my part

But I say when you vote, you have to leave a comment with it. That would solve the problem of crap like that. Or maybe change the averaging system somehow.

Also someone mentioned earlier about Newbs disrespecting the elders, well I agree with that... reminds me of the time I got flamed cuz a newb thought...
"You've almost been here a year and aren't very high on the power tree, man your a newb!"
^
that my friends is disrespect, and pure stupidity...

Thank god it was deleted...

All I know is we are a modding community not a bunch of newbies who complain about everything! We need to work together to solve these problems, we need to show we don't always need to rely on Darky!

As I said once before, a long time ago in the IRC chat...
"I'm gonna laugh when Darky leaves to do something else and you all go crying for Darky cuz hes not there to fix your problems"

Its true and its happened. So we are left with a decision here, work together to solve the problem, or keep complaining and nothing will get done.

I agree with all of yall about this... but I hate to be the one to point this out but...

Its probable that most of the people your complaining about in this thread would never take the time to read it...
Which means you're preaching-to-the-choir and most of the random-voting noobs will never even notice that their actions are being frowned apon.