Try re-reading their comments again, then ask yourself again if it was merely a clan attacking another at opportunity. They sound pretty darn personal to me. And keep in mind those were just quotes I picked from the first 2 pages out of about two dozen pages of rants and arguements spread out across several topic at Serenity Now's website. I'm sure it gets a whole lot worse. If I can find the address you can go check it out for yourself.
I read a lot of the original posts myself. If it was personal, I am sure that they would have included the name. Let me define personal before the arguement continues.
Personal: Of or relating to a particular person; private (Dictionary.com)
If these were two rival clans, then I think the clan would have raided any ceremony for any member of their clan. Now, if they had said after the raid something like "John Doe is going to hell", then that would make it a little more personal. But do you really think that they knew the person in real life? No, I don't think so. It's the same as people cursing at other people on a system like Xbox Live after a kill. Do they know the personal of whom he/she just killed? No, so therefore it can't be considered personal.
Because if you hate/disagree with us, you have the freedom to leave whenever you want, as no one has any obligation to visit this site.
That really has no reason for making it not a dictatorship. Some dictators from history would have allowed the people to leave. Would that make them not a dictator? Nope, they are still a dictator. I can tell that you already have a deep conotation that a dictator is "bad" because you give false reason in order to deny it from yourself. Dictatorship means nothing more than its definition.
dictatorship: Absolute or despotic control or power (Dictionary.com)
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We can assume anyone who gains too much power will most likely become corrupt. The Canadian gove rnment was corrupted for about 6 years because the leaders gained too much power for too long. Most dictated countries are third world, and are partly third world because of their government.
We can obviously say that too much power is a bad thing.
We can assume anyone who gains too much power will most likely become corrupt. The Canadian gove rnment was corrupted for about 6 years because the leaders gained too much power for too long. Most dictated countries are third world, and are partly third world because of their government.
It may be the type of government that has the most tendency to become corrupt, but we can't assume that everyone under that kind of leadership will automatically become corrupt.
But that is really a whole different topic that I'm going to stop discussing right now so we can continue with this topic.
Do they know the personal of whom he/she just killed? No, so therefore it can't be considered personal.
I strongly disagree with you on that one. One's actions dictates their crime, not their intentions (i.e. drunk drivers who unintentionally kill someone are still charged with murder). Its doesnt matter if you personally know the person who's grave you are walking over, what matters is that you are doing it. Take the whole instance of Phred Phelps. He's celebrating the death of soldiers because of his own views on America's tolorance towards the gay culture. Is it anything particularly personal towards each specific soldier buried? No. But you better damn well believe the families of the slain take it that way as they hear the cheering from him and his cohorts in the distance as they sit in their seats in front of the casket. You can throw your dictionary definitions at me 'till you are blue in the face. It wont change that what that clan did was clear and intentional disrecpect at a time where it was least appropriate. In their case if they DID know her real name, I'd bet more then money that they WOULD be using it. I still see it as personal. -VGsatomi
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Unfortunately this forum was not made on how to prevent the a**holes from attacking, it was made to debate on the issue that funerals are not meant to be ruined. Too many people here are getting off-topic and I hope that this also may be the last post in this topic and we leave it be.
50. Re: SN has their own funeral. Hypocrisy | 4/3/2006 8:24:36 AM PDT
Q u o t e: deathsgrip you have no right really displaying private forum details here.
I thought what SN did was very low and childish but imo you are now no better than them.
Why? Because it shows that a lot of SN members are devoid of any rational or mature thoughts? I'm going to copy and paste a comment one of YOUR members said to the horde girl and direct them to your guildie's mother.
Raikairi, "she deserved to die." Love SN.
I really hope the few remaining cool/mature people in SN realize that they're subhuman by association and leave the guild. It honestly doesn't matter if only a few members trash-talked the deceased girl - you all are considered immature and moronic by being associated with your guildies.
-Eloderung (forums are still broken, contact me in game if you wish to confirm my identity)"
A few weeks ago raikari's mother has died.
Raikairi
Guild Member Posts: 373 Joined: Jul. 2005
Posted on: Mar. 30 2006,8:58
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At this time on March 30th, 2006 the best thing to ever happen to me has left. My mother passed away tonight at the age of 44 and me at the age of 20. She died from Large Cell Cancer in the lung, pancrease, liver, and bloodstreem. She died with no pain while in a deep sleep/coma.
She amazed the doctors with her amazing strength to survive. She was alive and living strong with 50/30 bloodpressure and maintaining a 130-160 heartrate for about a week. Most people go into coma at around 70/30 bloodpressure. She even was breathing and living holding a 25/15 bloodpressure with no medical help or lifesupport.
Tonight the best thing of my life has left to go to a better place. A mother who did everything for everyone. A mother who put her kids before herself made sure they had what they needed and brought up right.
I have spent the past 4+ weeks staying at the hospital with her to help her with anything she needed. It was the best time of my life. I will never have anything succeed this moment that is present. Last night she was in an incredibly great mood with more than half the family around her. She said she had more fun that night than in ages.
A good way to remember a good person.
May god have forgiveness and grace for her and let her into his kingdom.
Why don't he joke his mother as he joked that girl?!! Damn this guy angers me. such assho*e... I hope he die early and burn in the hell ¬¬
First off I must say that I'm not very good at expressing what I mean, and so probably going to be misunderstood alot, but I'm still not going to clarify myself with Ki becouse he'd not understand no matter what, couse he seems to think so differently, second, is it me or is the Topic slowing down? Then again I guess thats to be expected after a week or so, and third, the reason I haven't responded for so long is a Tornado passed within sight of our house, taking who knows how many power lines, phone lines and internet lines with it, we got power back first, then phones soon after, but internet took well longer... what was it? 52 tornados at the same time? its amazing only 12 people died... I'm pretty sure that was international news as well, some family over in either russia or germany, can never keep the 2 straight, called soon after we got phones back about it, lol. And finally plz keep with me, its probably gonna take awhile before I manage not to sound like an idiot , but I'll get there, and I think I know why Ki/VG, sheep god are still arguing if only I could put it into words, couse it just seems, well, I dunno, not very bright if they're still trying to convince eachother of their point of views, seems sorta obvious that both sides think eachother idiots and wont see it the other sides way no matter what, and Ki, what was hippocritical about what I said? I still dont get that...
well probly the most annoying thing about you guys arguning is sheep quoting every person he wants to argue with i mean come on. Well anyways i finly decided to patiently wait a hour for the movie to buffer up since im on dail-up.
First those guys where bout the smartest ever to do PvP server unless your a total nerd and care only about WOW and that damn level whatever mage. Every person keeps comparing this act as if it happened in real life well it didn't and it probly won't becuase clan serenty see's this as a game and the only reason there talking crap. Is becuase it pisses all those little nerdy WOW players off and hell its fun pissing people off the internet. Yes it is sad some one died in real life but like i said they only talk crap becuase they enjoy all you getting pissed off.
Well looking at the movie i can tell you right now that was no massecure. First of all there where about 12 people that where not even moving and probly afk. i saw only like 4 people try to escaped and about rest them fought. and i will admit there probly some that got killed trying to escape but hey if your losing a PvP battle acourse you try to run. over all clan serenity did a tactical brillance on that raid keeping people back to get people running away. working together to take out the bigger threats of the group. having that scout go ahead before the main group got there all tactical brillance.
So those of you that keep comparing to this like somone whent to that girls real funural STFU you nerds it wasn't real life.
For those of you that think you really know some one threw a game STFU unless you litraly meant the person you could be talking to Osoma bin ladin for all you know trust me i meant some people that i thought where cool as shit over a game and they turend out to be very wierd.
i like my video games and i might even get pissed if somone kept killing me over and over or something like that. but i never take it personly and would never lose any sleep over it. heck those parents probly didn't even know she played WOW and don't even know about this.
Xlightscreen arguning is sheep quoting every person he wants to argue with i mean come on.
You dont get the word "debate." You talk advantage of your competitors weaknesses, and take it as your advantage. Oooooh your such a poor arguer...I never even knew they let 7 year olds give speeches on this site. Kid, you should be at the winnie the pooh page.
XlightscreenFirst those guys where bout the smartest ever to do PvP server unless your a total nerd and care only about WOW and that damn level whatever mage.
About the smartest guys ever: Plan first, then do it. They blindly charged in, heedless of the conciquences. About the mage: She was a friend of thiers. They actually did respect her, and wanted to play last tributes. Wouldn't you if your friend died?
...If you had any?
XlightscreenWell looking at the movie i can tell you right now that was no massecure. First of all there where about 12 people that where not even moving and probly afk.
...I counted 5 that stood. The rest paniced. Hip hip horray. 5 out of...Id estimate 50 people or 40 perhaps.
Xlightscreenover all clan serenity did a tactical brillance on that raid keeping people back to get people running away. working together to take out the bigger threats of the group. having that scout go ahead before the main group got there all tactical brillance.
Tactical brilliance in the game? not really! Tactical sence to their reputation and to them period? Almost all of them are banned from every single forum. No one likes them, and they are flamed all out where new ones pop up. You be the judge.
XlightscreenSo those of you that keep comparing to this like somone whent to that girls real funural STFU you nerds it wasn't real life.
Lol Guy named after a move in pokemon thinks we all are nerds and we need to get lives!
Just 1 more thing: That was a publicly announced service. Its like your friend (if you even had any) Dying and some teens coming in and vandilizing the whole thing. You would enjoy that to the fullest, wouldnt you?
I can imagine you talking to somone in a debate every word they say you repeat then say something back lol. Well anyways back on track like i said not real life no one stabed her real dead body no one when't and ambushed all the people at her real funral or said bunch of crap to her. remeber what Warcraft or anything computer is nothing but a bunch of 101 binary.
And they did not blindly charge in if you didn't relize that guy was a scout they knew what they where doing. And if you where debating you would look at both sides of the situation but acourse you don't...
Yes i would pay tributes for my friends but i wouldent pay trubute in a fake world where her charicter Which has probly got deleted becuase of inactive and has not payed the bill.
And about my name yes it based of a pokimon move but i made that name when i was like 12 playing Starcraft i got other names i could use but this is my blizzard name. and you calling me a nerd look who the ONLY one here that acutly puts where he lives at and not just state in country but state and town.
See i know your just arguing and not debating becuase you don't look at it from a logical view. ask yourself these questions (This can be for everyone)
Why would clan serenity do this? What gain does this give them? Was there a rivalry against the two clans? Why they countinue to talk crap to people even after the incedent?
Remeber in War many soldiers still have a respect for there fellow enemy
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what was it? 52 tornados at the same time? 
its amazing only 12 people died... I'm pretty sure that was international news as well, some family over in either russia or germany, can never keep the 2 straight, called soon after we got phones back about it, lol. And finally plz keep with me, its probably gonna take awhile before I manage not to sound like an idiot 
, but I'll get there, and I think I know why Ki/VG, sheep god are still arguing if only I could put it into words, couse it just seems, well, I dunno, not very bright if they're still trying to convince eachother of their point of views, seems sorta obvious that both sides think eachother idiots and wont see it the other sides way no matter what, and Ki, what was hippocritical about what I said? I still dont get that... 
