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WoW guild pulls a Phred Phelps

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#76

Re: Funeral Disruption

SilverSongExcuse me, I've attended a funeral in another game before for a character and person who died. Actually I've attended more than a few. Each time there was a funeral for a beloved character&person that died, the people running the world were always in full attendance to show their respects. There were special flowers and foods brought in and the employees of the world would transform a person's favorite zone from PvP to Non-Agression for the day of the ceremony. They also dedicated a new celestial body of stars to the heavens of the world when a beloved employee died. For every PC that dies in real life, a new star is added to the night skies tagged with their primary character name.


Different Game, I don't think it really matters what happened in other games.

There were about, what? 30 Horde there. This is one server outta 30 or more (each containging thousands and thousands of people, all with their own delemers) and about 30 people turning up . I don't think Blizzard would come to defend it from disruption.

Heck! The announcement wasn't even made on the Official WoW forums! Blizz Employee's rarely check their realm boards (if ever)as it is and I don't think they'd visit someone elses site either.

I am almost 100% sure they didn't even know about it.

Also I watched the movie, I love it, I think it's funny even. But that's only Game-Wise. In real life I feel sorry for the person and their family for their loss, but in game as I said. I found it funny.

Infact, I play on Illidan server. I play alliance on there and I know the guild. And always have since I first bought the game (long before this event occured).

SilverSong
A few more things... if I were playing in WoW I would be playing a Bard, and if I were playing on that server, I would pen my own songs and sing/spam them in the townships mourning the loss of this favorite PC and praising everyone who died that day to attend her funeral as heroes of a noble cause. I would make no mention of the clan that attacked them except for a most vague reference. Perhaps simply as the dark ones.


You can't be Bards in WoW. And what difference would that make anyway :P.


I wouldn't just sing such a song once, I'd remmember to repeat it every month and every year, lest anyone forget.


I don't really think anyone would really care to be honest.

Yes it was mean for them to disturb it, but it was mostly the fault of the Hoster(s) for putting it in a Contested Region yadda yadda yadda.


Anyway it's months old now, I don't think anyone cares about it anymore (on behalf of Serenity Now).
#77
Lol so that means no one wanna settle this in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, or Alterac Valley man where's the dispute without the fiesty part. :twisted: :twisted:
#78
I am trying to state a point with my CAPS LOCK ok. Im not meant to scare any one with my methods of Signature signing. And what the hell why would we want to settle a dispute over a post in Battlegrounds??? Correct me if Im wrong but this is a trend of posts expressing one thought and another. Eventually we would have people changing sides or continuously being persistent upon their posts. I don't mind the Battlegrounds but it's a bit off topic to be stating BG when we have important matters to discuss. This post is going to reach 100 comments and I bet some will state off-topic matters. Like everyone else and I stated it's a memorium. You wouldn't believe how far the measures go as to what buddies will do for one and another. Any more reasoning or do I have to give sophisticated posts onto why those want to post 2 of an oppositional contest to see who's right/wrong. And yes we should feel sorry for the person gone and no we shouldn't become Democrats and Republicans over matters like these and yes there's going to be dumb posts and no it is not matters for anyone to laugh basically bc some guy recorded the video for entertainment use when it actually offends many individuals and yes there were insults stating somethings about 70 virgins and all that applies to those simply restating the mocking insults like Matt. WOW NOW I HAVEN"T BEEN ABLE TO POST THIS MUCH OVER THIS TOPIC still not the point however but basically no one have the authority to mock upon those depraived of life whatsoever. That he said about Phred Philips or whatever it is what they do was very insulting upon saying 70 virgins and buying her account and all that creaking crappy insults. DAMN NOW IM OFF TOPIC!!!! :x :x :x :x :shock: :shock: :evil: :evil: :evil:
#79
The video is a lil boring but still, it was kinda funny. And i dont think that girl would mind what happened. While to most of you i may seem as a magor lack of respect, WOW is still a game where u r free to do anything u want, those guys just were having some fun. Dont take it personal, people die every day and if ull hate everyone who once make a joke about it or screw things up like this, there would be nothing else then just more anger in this world. Just smile and forget about it, it wouldnt do any good spreading more misery around the world.
P.S. Why would they show up without their weapons? It's like to say: I aint wearing no underwear 2day because people might think im oversuxual at the funeral.
#80
"Lembre-se de que a coisa mais pesada que alguém pode carregar é a sua consciência..."

Remember that the thing more heavy one man can carry is his conscience...

most of the members of "serenity now" will grow up some day,and probaly they gonna re-think in what they done, we cant do nothing to change what happened, we can only hope that in the future they change... or burn in hell.

Sry for the poor english.
#81
This will probably be the last I will post of this topic.

And i dont think that girl would mind what happened.


Well, I don't think any dead person would actually mind if you piss on their grave....mainly because they can't.

While to most of you i may seem as a magor lack of respect, WOW is still a game where u r free to do anything u want, those guys just were having some fun.


Same could be said for this entire country. You have the freedoms to do and say almost anything you want. However, there is a fine line between what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do (i.e. what is morally acceptable). Behavior like theirs, even in an online game, is not acceptable.

Dont take it personal


How could they NOT??

people die every day and if ull hate everyone who once make a joke about it or screw things up like this, there would be nothing else then just more anger in this world.


Hmmm...personally I blame those who CAUSE the anger rather then those who feel is as a result of someone else's actions.

P.S. Why would they show up without their weapons? It's like to say: I aint wearing no underwear 2day because people might think im oversuxual at the funeral.


Tell me, who the %$#@ shows up to a memorial service armed!? Thats total disrespect in of its self. Only funeral service honor guard (police, military funerals) carry weapons to a service.

Anyway it's months old now, I don't think anyone cares about it anymore (on behalf of Serenity Now).


Months old? Its not even a month old...

I know that people die everyday, and there are places across the world (Africa, South Asia) where people die or are killed in droves due to violence, famine and civil unrest. However this is a warcraft related site, and this particular death had to do with WoW, so you put 2 and 2 together and you get...yeah, I figured it was a valid subject. If this was a geo-political related site, the subject of those killings and other deaths would probably come up quite frequently. However its not, so it wont.

And to those who keep saying "its just a game." I'll say this; Every time someone passes away there are often 2 memorial services (memorials, not funerals). One held by immediate family and close friends, and one held at their place of work by his/her associates and co-workers. For example, when a policeman or military solider is killed, the family holds a memorial, but the police dept/military unit hold their own service to honor one of their own as well at the dept. or place of operations. This person obviously meant enouph to those clan members to have them consider doign such a thing and to have so many people show up. Like it or not, relationships are formed in that game. Talking over ventrillo while fighting your way through MC is not much different then just hanging out with friends. That online world is like that "place of work." So I see it perfectly logical to hold the memorial at the place where they knew their friend the best. If you actually think Serenity Now was just "playing the game" of "just having fun" (especially reading what they had to say afterward) then I'm sorry, but I find you pretty damn cold hearted.

I mean, vandals defacing war memorials that honor the dead are "just having fun" too, but does that make their actions acceptable?

And for the guy who mentioned about doing it in an FPS. Well, if that was the case, there would never had been a problem, because every FPS you can set up your own server and allow only certain people in. Crashers would have never been a problem.
-VGsatomi
#82
Maybe this is a stupid question, but I didn't get a point about this topic. What has happened? How he/she died? VGSatomi (first) message was too complicated for me to understand.
#83
Mechanical ManMaybe this is a stupid question, but I didn't get a point about this topic. What has happened? How he/she died? VGSatomi (first) message was too complicated for me to understand.


The person died in real life of a stroke. A clan raided her in-game funeral. They laughed and taunted and the mercilesly slaughtered for humor and to be "Wicked mosnsterously babical dudeetes and dudes!"

In the end, they are hated everywhere and post trying to bann them from site are being spread like wild fires through the site.
#84
alright probly time to lock this topic just becuase it will go on and on this my last post to. Well think of it from the attackers view they know somone died in real life and there a funral going on. well if your a agressive clan that likes PVP then hell ya do it free kills. I'm pretty sure if they knew her or any of the clan they probly woulden't have.

To a another point of view your taking the game to searus if you don't bring weapons with ya that just kinda stupid any MMORPG i play even if i wear a diffrent suit i alwase pack my heat in a land where people can do anything. even during events that i ever did with the guilds i where in we alwase assigned security teams remeber PVP pretty much anarchy at its finest.

And VG for FPS i wasn't saying that they coulden't do something like this i'm saying its unlikly people would do it. espcily when you got only options of Team 1 and Team 2.
#85
Just don't disrespect the tranquility of a memorium is all I got to say unless you want to be dirupted on your memorium you're giving to others. Fayejin was a WoW fan and nothing could stop it at that. That explains the last walk of her account character which no one will ever touch leave it at that. :roll: :roll: :roll:
#86
Xlightscreenalright probly time to lock this topic just becuase it will go on and on this my last post to. Well think of it from the attackers view they know somone died in real life and there a funral going on. well if your a agressive clan that likes PVP then hell ya do it free kills. I'm pretty sure if they knew her or any of the clan they probly woulden't have.

To a another point of view your taking the game to searus if you don't bring weapons with ya that just kinda stupid any MMORPG i play even if i wear a diffrent suit i alwase pack my heat in a land where people can do anything. even during events that i ever did with the guilds i where in we alwase assigned security teams remeber PVP pretty much anarchy at its finest.

And VG for FPS i wasn't saying that they coulden't do something like this i'm saying its unlikly people would do it. espcily when you got only options of Team 1 and Team 2.


Read vgs post for more info to your answers. Am I the only person who knows what hes doing? (other than vg supporters)
#87
I don't understand what does mean 'died for stroke'. I'm very sorry, but english is not my first language. Looking in dictionary I read that means loss of cerebral functions, but also striking with an object. What I really want to know, if that person died violent death or due to an illness.
#88
Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.

There is freedom of speach and opinion, u moron. I found it funny, nothing i could do about that. Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.

And i bet ur ganna quote little snippets of my posts then say : This is what james said: "you moron, u really are such a whiner, you got nothing betetr to do then whine! and claim that im a war monger.


THIS IS A FORUM, FOR DISCUSION, NOT FOR DICTATORSHIP!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep. BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

SN for teh win! They are so cool. I wish I was american so that i could be in their clan on wow as well as on their forums on the web.



And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music :D ) , aint a reason to ban them.



I remain a suporter of VGsatomi and SN alike. They are both great people. And besides, sheep, VGsatomi would not ban me just for me showing my veiws. If he wanted no discusioon, hes had locked the thread. Hes a nice person :) VGSATOMI FTW !!!
#89
james1654Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.

There is freedom of speach and opinion, u moron. I found it funny, nothing i could do about that. Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.

And i bet ur ganna quote little snippets of my posts then say : This is what james said: "you moron, u really are such a whiner, you got nothing betetr to do then whine! and claim that im a war monger.


THIS IS A FORUM, FOR DISCUSION, NOT FOR DICTATORSHIP!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep. BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

SN for teh win! They are so cool. I wish I was american so that i could be in their clan on wow as well as on their forums on the web.



And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music :D ) , aint a reason to ban them.



I remain a suporter of VGsatomi and SN alike. They are both great people. And besides, sheep, VGsatomi would not ban me just for me showing my veiws. If he wanted no discusioon, hes had locked the thread. Hes a nice person :) VGSATOMI FTW !!!


Ok...you and your "freedom of speech" has led me to show you some post of other people I was attack by for freedom of speech! Before i get into my case that is...

Darkshadow: Freedom of Speech? Not here, my friend. Posting useless crap and insulting other people will result in consequences.

Mecheon: Matt, you're very bloody bad at your view

Also, you may have freedom of speech in America, but guess what?

The Internet isn't America

Welcome to our laws. Freedom of speech isn't one of them

Also, you're implying that Darky, who barely even shows up here, is, with your OWN words, "filling the forums with unreasonable topics" when he's trying to tell us of a power outage

HMMMM, I WONDER WHY YOU'RE GETTING FLAMED?

lordothrigs: Well, unfortunatly for you, the internet is based...well everywhere. Also, this site is based in Switzerland, so American and German laws mean nothing here. Also, would you even be here if it weren't for Darky so I suggest you shut up and stop spamming.

Ki: Hey, here's a dare: I dare you to go up to every police officer you see, and say "f*** you" three times. Freedom of speech, right?

powerDK:With freedom of speech, you have the freedom to express your opinions like you did, but that also gives us the option to tell you to shut the **** up. Seems like you forgot that.

And before complaining about that people aren't speaking english, well, learn to spell yourself, your mother language must be english.

And while you're at it, learn to read, no one spoke of banning you, you were only told to shut the **** up, that isn't the same thing.

Vgsatomi (My fav mod for this!): As far as the whole free speech thing, the internet is not governed by an specific international law, nor is is subject to the law of any one specific country- only by local/national ones, if even that. American free speech is protected by the American Constitution, but while in a Swiss site like this one, that holds no ground. After all, what is illegal in one country may be perfectly legal in another. Some international internet law exists mutually between nations, but that mainly pertains to intellectual property (copywrites in regards to pirated/warez material), or others relating to internaional security (i.e. terrorism and the spreading of dangerous intellectual material). But even then the perpatrator is only subjected to the laws of his/her resident country, whether how loose or strict they may be. As far as mouthing off in a simple message forum like this, it can be governed however its moderators please. We could be like the New York Times and censor out anything that we remotely disagreed with if we wanted to. But that is not how we are- just dont be nieve and think that an Amercian domestic law such as the First Ammendment will protect your actions here on an international message board. That goes for everyone- Americans, French, Danish, Polish- everyone.

So basicly, not all countries have freedom of speech. Only a select few. If we did have freedom of speech, I bet joethenakedhippo would run rampant throught the site calling vg a "10 year old fag" (No, im just talking about freedom of speech and joethenakedhippo, not you vg.)

Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.


And you have nothing better to do than make a false attempt to spread freedom of speech throught the internet.

Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.


Yes. You know why? Cause you left all those questions unanswered. I seriously don't think you feel sorry if you think Sn is a good person! Anyone can lie of a forum...you want to know why?...because...



THE INTERNET DOESNT SHOW YOUR FACE AT ALL TIMES!!!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep


1. Sex discrimination. Even freedom of speech doesnt allow that.
2. I know some girls in real life, bnet, and perhaps on the site who can kill you in real life if they met you.
3. Flaming. And bad at that. Little girl? is that all? If freedom of speech was allowed, id be mecheon, you would be xXzombieXx. But, since there isnt, i cant.

BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.


Either you flunked pre-k or you cant mysteriously tell the difference between male and female. The person who died mas female.

And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music ) , aint a reason to ban them.


they were banned for what they did to the persons "public" funeral.

And to mechanical man: she died of an illness.