There has GOT TO BE AN EASIER WAY! Can you find it?

so how are those items coming along?!

is it okay if we don't have item recipes? i personally think that the items i have so far (listed on the 1st page of this thread, and at the top of the link in my sig) are sufficient, and there aren't enough base items for any actual coherent item recipe system. by base items, i mean items that aren't imbued, because combining two imbued items would cost you the price of the shard and one of the imbued effects, because orb effects don't stack.

our new Water Wars should be based around customization more than items. plus i've got 93 total item count >_>, 89 if you don't count the insta-healing items. that's a lot, and i don't really have any ideas for item recipes. oh btw i could set it up so that the armour/attack bonuses won't stack, or only stack when it's listed as stackable. that would add even more depth to our game.

hmm depends! cause for some heros! you would want attack speed and damage! over armor! and some units would want armor and damage over attack speed! or what ever! everything is dependant! but sure! if you think it would be able to work out! then lets do it!


BTW i need a terrianer! BADLY!

the abilities are coming along and if you got any ideas then let me know! i got under a 100 but 6 differant classes and 15 base and 5 ults! that is alot of abilities 120 differant ones! and my ideas are slowing down! but if you got any ideas! then tell me!

it could be set up so that there are stackable and non-stackable attack, attack speed, move speed, armour, hp regen, mana regen, etc.

also when you're absolutely out of ideas for spells, you could make some normal spells that are weak versions of ults and then make ults that are strong versions of some normal spells. will help you hit 120. or you could repeat some spells across some classes, maybe change them just a little bit so different classes may have an advantage over the same spell as another class (ie: lower mana cost but raise cooldown)

well then i got a guy making the terrian for me so between him and me making the rest of the abilities we will have a map!

so also another thing with recipes you have the ability to buy small things that will be good at the start and then you can upgrade them into one thing that helps you out as you go on later in the game! that is why recipes are good!

so do you think you would have items that could make recipes for?

hmm i might need new icons but i might be able to. would be kind of weird tho, since i already have the imbue thing in. also about the minimap not changing, i think it may have been a custom (and very good) minimap replacement. it's possible to replace the minimap with an picture in-game, i've seen it done in an Everquest map. maybe that's what was done in Water Wars - Submerged?
*note: ideas for two so far, and they're done. no other ideas tho. they are Full Armour, a combination of Armoured Cloak and Light Armour, boosts armour by 5, has a chance to reduce damage dealt to 10; and Razor Band, combo of Agility Bracelet and Battle Claws, boosts attack by 6, attack speed by 12%, armour by 2, and reflects melee attacks (30%).

dont try to get to into it! keep it simple! a sword with dam and crits. another sword that increases attack speed and dam! shield that has a chance to reduce dam by XX.
but thanks again for all the help! just waiting for my terrianer to PM me back to see how he is doin!

plus the items pics dont have to go together cause people only care about the stats!

Hairybeavetplus the items pics dont have to go together cause people only care about the stats!

haha yeah that's true... but it's the little things together with the big things that make a map a keeper. uh about sword w/ dam&crit, that would be what "wrath" shard is for. dam & crit. also, if the return rate for items is 100%, then items become fully interchangable except that imbuing something costs money. it would make it easier for new ppl to find an item/combo they like.

sounds good! cause sometime i miss click in a hurry and it would be nice not to lose any money. but that is true about the little things... but i was just trying to tell you not to stress. and if you can shard any it! then i think that would be better then just the old school straight recipes. or a combo of both of them!

yeah, shards onto recipes would be awesome. school has started tho, so i won't be able to work on this much except for weekends.

haha! yea i start college next week! and dude there is over like 1000 variables easily for player 1 so far! 0.o this was such a big project to take on! but i just got to finish making all my abilities but i get boried cause they take so long and there is so much to type! but take your time! dont think there is much left for you to do anyways!

hey bro when did you want to send the items to me? and is there an easy way to copy them all onto 1 map?

well since you have already started the map, the easiest way would be copy/paste the stuff. maybe type it all in manually if you type fast. i could send it to you now, but i still only have the two item recipes tho, sorry haven't really thought of any more that would be really novel. haven't really thought of any more period actually.